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Re: Quartz/memory benchmarks...
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Re: Quartz/memory benchmarks...


  • Subject: Re: Quartz/memory benchmarks...
  • From: Allan Odgaard <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 00:18:37 +0200

On torsdag, juni 27, 2002, at 11:23 , Kyle Hammond wrote:

However, I'm not really convinced. If I grab the scroll bar thumb and slide it up and down, the table scrolls very smoothly, even full screen.

How nice with that subjective statement, especially considering that the number of mouseEvents sent to my window (with a delta Y > 0) is less than my screens refresh rate (at 60 Hz).

If I select a row and hold down the keyboard up or down arrow key, the table also scrolls very smoothly, as quickly as my key-repeat setting can go.

The fastest key-repeat setting on my system provides ~30 repeats pr. second -- this is *not* realtime (and another thing that really irritates me about this Mac -- for God sake, it takes *two* entire seconds to scroll from the top to the bottom of this window (which feature 60 lines)...

Users aren't going to be able to do what your programmatic scrolling is doing.

Actually, I wanted to programatically do the steps in between the scroll factor, so that one can scroll while reading a document without loosing the focus -- unfortunately this is impossible on the Mac, because the smooth ease in/out won't be realtime and so just look irritating... maybe I should just go back to my Amiga until Quartz Extreme is released ;-)

They're going to have to use the scrollbar or arrow keys to scroll. So, I don't think that you can definitely say from this code that "Quartz is slow".

First of all, I have no problem detecting that scrolling the contents of e.g. Finder windows is slow -- you really ought to see how real time scrolling looks, secondly: yes I *can* say that Quartz is slow, scrolling a listview at 17 frames pr. second *is* slow!!! even though many users won't notice it...

The scroll bar may be using some optimized code path behind the scenes, but that's another issue.

Stop kidding yourself!

Quartz itself isn't the cause of the slowdown, since the scroll bar can make it zip right along.

Okay, so why don't you modify the program and make it send fake mouse events and see if that boosts the frame rate???
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