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Re: re Hiding controls and another question
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Re: re Hiding controls and another question


  • Subject: Re: re Hiding controls and another question
  • From: email@hidden
  • Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:53:12 -0800

The problem is that we are dealing with two competing sets of interfaces,
both with standards that have developed over years. And thus we have Mac
programmers (like myself) where hiding irrelevant controls is considered the
proper thing to do, because when you show a disabled control the user's
first question is "Why can't I click in this checkbox?" And you have *Step
programmers where dimming irrelevant controls is considered the proper thing
to do, because when controls are hiding and appearing the user goes "Whoa!
Where'd that button go!"

Thus was it always done on the Mac isn't a good enough argument, thus was it
always done on *Step isn't a good enough argument. It's going to take some
time for the two histories to merge, and what will come out will be a
mixture of the two.

No, no, that's far too reasonable of a position. How dare you try to inject a bit of rationality into a religious debate! :->
I myself use both methods of "UI disabling" in my apps, depending upon context, and I could give good arguments for the choices I made in each case. I haven't had a single complaint from a user yet. Apple's apps in OS X also use both methods; the Finder, for example, in the View Options panel, hides the UI for choosing a view background picture until that option is chosen with the radio control. I cite that example just because I happen to remember it's there, but I believe there are many others.
It would be nice to get an official statement from Apple on this, though, and added support from Cocoa for hiding of controls if their official position is that that is acceptable UI. I've just logged a bug on Apple to this effect.

Ben Haller
Stick Software
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