Re: Is there a tutorial/sample for displaying...
Re: Is there a tutorial/sample for displaying...
- Subject: Re: Is there a tutorial/sample for displaying...
- From: dave dowling <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 13:03:44 -0400
ok, here's where i get to admit that i'm a Cocoa newbie. i can
also affirm that Erik is a cool guy, from whom i have learned a
*lot* regarding Cocoa, Obj-C, and the Mac in general. however, i
disagree on this point, for several reasons.
the point, as i read it:
"don't ask easy questions in here. go do some research yourself
before wasting the time of more advanced programmers."
why i disagree (if that's the point being made):
i think these groups are not only about learning, but also about
maximizing one's resources. Scot obviously searched for an answer,
at least a little bit. he could spend an hour looking, or ask the
list. he asked the list, and got an answer. he saved what could
have turned into an hour or so, and Erik spent a minute or so
telling him where to go (i won't elaborate on that point). Erik
enabled Scot, via the list, to maximize his time resources. now
Scot (and others who read Erik's reply) has a better idea of where
to look for this kind of info. that in itself (where to look) is
part of the learning curve.
personally, based on my own experience learning anything i've
learned (whatever that is), i can pick up skills a lot quicker from
an answer to a seemingly bad question than i can from hours and
hours digging through reference material on my own. in addition,
this list would be of little value to newbies like me if the only
topics discussed were "adventurer" or "swashbuckler" topics.
i teach guitar. kids ask me to show them easy chords. i don't
tell them to go get a chord book. i show them the chords. i write
them down. i may recommend a chord book. in addition, if there
were a bunch of eager minds observing, like there are in this
forum, they'd all learn a new chord, as well as where to find more.
i have to add that, as a guitarist for 20 years now, i'm always
happy when i can go to a jam session and pick another guitarist's
brain for chords and licks that i could have pored through a book
to glean. the human interaction adds interest to the subject, and
this kind of learning offers a major time-saver when compared to
personal research.
i hope that my dumb questions will continue to be answered, so i
can learn, more efficiently, along with the other people in this
list. if enough high-level programmers get tired of scrolling
through the mire of the redundant, i'm sure they'll create an
exclusive "Cocoa swashbucklers" club. until then, i'm thankful,
for one, that they're sticking around to help us newbies save time
and learn more in the process.
On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, at 10:28 AM, Erik J. Barzeski wrote:
Hi,
I'm tempted to go with the "RTFM" response... But let me expound
on it a
little...
First, if you type "sheet" into Cocoa Dev Central's search box,
you get:
http://www.cocoadevcentral.com/tutorials/showpage.php?show=00000014.php
Newbies, isit these sites before asking questions. "How do I make
a sheet"
or "How can I make my document save" or whatever are pretty basic
questions
that have been answered - sometimes several times - on these sites.
http://cocoadevcentral.com/
http://cocoa.mamasam.com/ (this one is particularly noteworthy)
http://cocoadev.com/
http://stepwise.com/
Not many others on this list want to "piss off" the newbies or
scare them
away. For the most part, _I'm_ still a newbie in terms of some NeXTies
who've written to OpenStep or whatever... But it's tough to
elevate yourself
from newbie to 'adventurer' or whatever the next level is by constantly
asking for the answers to simple questions. You may as well ask
someone else
to write your software for you. Find some code, then modify it by
plugging
in all sorts of permutations, and then you begin to understand...
So yes, while I welcome you to the wonderful world of Cocoa, and
wish for
you to participate and ask questions on this list, I encourage you
to be
ambitious in researching before asking...
But I digress... <grin> :)
On 5/15/02 1:05am, Scot Gellock <email@hidden> wrote:
From: Scot Gellock <email@hidden>
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 21:32:58 -0700
To: <email@hidden>
Subject: Is there a tutorial/sample for displaying sheets (modal
dialogs) in
cocoa
I would like to display a modal dialog, from a nib, but can't
seem to find
docs or a sample.
The apple docs at:
http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosx/Cocoa/TasksAndConcepts/Programmin
gTopics/WinPanel/index.html
Say that the sheets topic is forth coming.
Is there a sample on how to do this available somewhere?
Thanks in advance.
Scot
--
Best wishes,
Erik J. Barzeski
I'm not brain dead. I'm
electroencephalographically challenged. :-)
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