Re: Is there a tutorial/sample for displaying...
Re: Is there a tutorial/sample for displaying...
- Subject: Re: Is there a tutorial/sample for displaying...
- From: Scot Gellock <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 21:09:03 -0700
For the folks who answered my question, thanks for your help. To the folks
who I managed to annoy, I apologize. That was not my intension. To the
person who provided the set of links to search before asking on the list,
thank you. That was very helpful. I'll certainly look there in the future
before I ask on the list again. Dave Dowling, thanks for defending me.
That was very kind of you.
In doing a search of developer.apple.com for 'cocoa sheets' the first 7
links were not helpful. The 8th one though, well, if I'd read the 8th link
at the bottom of the page, I could have saved myself the verbal beating.
On 5/15/02 3:51 PM, "Nicholas Riley" <email@hidden> wrote:
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On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 06:34:44PM -0400, dave dowling wrote:
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> On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, at 05:55 PM, Nicholas Riley wrote:
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>> Sure, but wouldn't you get tired of answering the same questions week
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>> after week?
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> no. on lists where i know the topic well, i do one of the following:
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> 1. let someone else answer. there's often someone who just
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> learned what's being asked and is dying to share, or would be
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> helped by explaining what they've just learned.
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> 2. if no one answers within a day or two, i answer it.
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> 3. if i don't want to explain it all again, i answer it like
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> this: good question! we were just talking about that last week.
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> the thread was called "how to do that thing". you can search the
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> archives and get the whole story.
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> 4. if i were just too sick and tired of answering the same
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> question, i'd erase the message rather than jump the person.
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I hope I didn't appear to advocate the last response (I'm not!).
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There's a difference between feeling frustrated at the lack of a
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solution and taking the frustration out on others.
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> it's also basic etiquette to be kind to people. we can encourage
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> those who don't know what we know and make them productive members
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> of the list, or we can be unkind to them and make them go away.
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Sure. We're not born with this stuff, but there will always be a
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distinction, however unclear to an observer, between people who want
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to learn and who 'just want an answer to their question'.
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> if you'd like to help the person, you could say:
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> do such and such a search at developer.apple.com to find what you need.
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> i typed that in fewer than 5 seconds.
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Sure. I would have answered if someone else didn't get to it
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first. :-) I was only citing this as an example of someone who
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could, had they known where to look, found their answer without
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needing to post to the mailing list at all.
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> these are excellent suggestions. i've emailed the admin on this
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> list in the past, and he's a nice and helpful guy. maybe you could
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> suggest these things to him. perhaps he'd agree to send an email
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> to new subscribers outlining where to look for basic info, and how
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> to solve one's own problems before approaching the list. that
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> might cut down on the super-basic questions.
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Something like a meta-FAQ for Cocoa/Obj-C would help all of us. Bill
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Bumgarner's long post to cocoa-dev or macosx-dev a few weeks ago would
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be a great start. Apple's doing a better job of this; the little
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movie they recently posted that shows how to look up documentation in
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Project Builder was a great help. I didn't know about the
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option-double-click for documentation shortcut until I watched it.
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