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Re: Flame retardant


  • Subject: Re: Flame retardant
  • From: "Erik J. Barzeski" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 11:53:41 -0400

Hi,

On 5/22/02 5:03pm, "email@hidden"
<email@hidden> wrote:
> Glen makes nice points here. I hope that people on this list will read
> them with an open mind. Compare the attitude that Glen exhibits toward
> newcomers - to extend a helping hand, to try to see things through the
> eyes of another person - with that displayed by "the other side" in this
> discussion, typified by the post from Erik Buck yesterday. The other
> side sees itself poised on top of the mountain, scrutinizing the
> newcomers climbing from below, and judging whether or not they are
> worthy to be thrown a rope. That's bullshit.

It's not bullshit. Furthermore, you don't seem to have understood what you
read from Erik Buck or at the URL he listed.

I am of the opinion that beginners have plenty of resources to ask their
questions of themselves and answer them for themselves. I've got a whole
site to help them do just that, plus there's Google, the documentation on
their hard disk, and now three pretty darn good Cocoa books.

It's not a matter of "we're on high" or any such thing: it's a matter of
making good programmers. Good programmers, in fact good _thinkers_, don't
just ask questions of other people and then copy and paste the code and go
about their way: they learn things by investing their own time and energy
and researching them.

Yes, the lists should be used for research, but think of it this way: the
documentation, Google, and the books are all a sort of FAQ. Everyone - and I
mean everyone - should read the FAQ before asking questions in any forum,
this one included.

But I already typed more than I thought I would, so I'll shut up now. THIS
topic is off-topic (though still pertinent), I think.


--
Best wishes,
Erik J. Barzeski

"What counts is not necessarily the size of the dog in the fight;
it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Dwight D. Eisenhower
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