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EOF/ObjC (was: Cocoa WebObjects)
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  • Subject: EOF/ObjC (was: Cocoa WebObjects)
  • From: Kevin Callahan <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 07:37:36 -0800

On Saturday, November 16, 2002, at 02:40 AM, Ondra Cada wrote:


On Friday, November 15, 2002, at 10:07 , Kevin Callahan wrote:

I wonder how many developers on this list
a) want/need EOF/ObjC
b) would contribute more apps, more quickly to the platform if they had EOF/ObjC

I am pretty sure nearly all of them: even those who never knew the thing would, had they be allowed to, soon discover the easiness and extreme power of these frameworks, even for the completely non-database-related stuff.
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Ondra Cada

I think you're right. So, the question is: what does Apple need to know/hear from us such that they will bring back what was one of the more compelling reasons to develop for the platform? It's clearly not enough we have clamored for 18 months. Have we not convinced Apple that the platform becomes more viable if more apps, better apps, more powerful and flexible apps - are made available more quickly? Importantly, how do we help make the business case for Apple? The onus is on us.

We're not saying to discontinue EOF/Java/WebObjects, of course. We're saying we need EOF/ObjC to be competitive. We're saying Apple needs EOF/ObjC to be competitive. We need EOF/ObjC if we're going to release compelling products in a rapid time frame, if release them at all. In fact, the availability of EOF/ObjC would make developing software affordable/viable for small Cocoa dev teams who don't have the resources to compete with large corporations. I think it's rational to assume with EOF/ObjC back in our toolset, there would be an upsurge in available applications - and one would think this would spur the growth and adoption rate of the platform.

Kevin
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