Re: Close button on Single Window Utilities
Re: Close button on Single Window Utilities
- Subject: Re: Close button on Single Window Utilities
- From: Charles Srstka <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:23:38 -0600
On Monday, November 18, 2002, at 12:51 PM, Ondra Cada wrote:
On Monday, Nov 18, 2002, at 19:33 Europe/Prague, Donald Brown wrote:
I'm with Matt on this. A single-window app whose window doesn't
represent a
document, the users I deal with expect closing the window to quit the
app.
Actually, I had to add a preference where even in a document app,
closing
the last window quit the app, so many of the users expected it and
wanted
it.
That's a windoze nonsense. System Preferences does it right: if I want
to QUIT the app, well, I quit it. If I want just to close its window,
I just close its window -- whilst the app still stays in Dock, easy to
access. The other behaviour limits the flexibility.
(Hide is not the same, and of course, so far as you have a preference
for that, it's quite all right: pref for the behaviour is the best
way. Though, second best is *not* quit automatically, and to do that
unconditionally is the worst alternative.)
Whoa - here I am agreeing with Ondra about something again. Wow, weird.
Being able to close all of an app's windows without quitting the app is
a very useful feature indeed. Then, if you click the app's Dock icon,
it brings up a new window, without your having to wait for the whole
app to launch again. I'll bet there isn't a person on this list who
doesn't use this ability somewhere, and most commonly, I'll bet you use
it with your web browser - it's very convenient to leave it running in
the background and instantly get a new browser window when you need
one, by clicking on its icon. Can you imagine how annoying it would be
if this were Windows and you needed to wait for OmniWeb, Mozilla,
Chimera, or whatever browser to use to relaunch once you closed all its
windows? And although the effect is less dramatic, this ability is also
very useful for System Preferences, Terminal, Mail, etc.
So, in short - cheers to Apple for making an OS where we don't have to
leave a window open to avoid quitting an app. Boo to Apple for
violating this principle in some of their apps (although in their
defense, they have provided us with a way to determine which behavior
will occur - the ones that will quit when you close their window tend
to use the metal interface, while the ones that will stay open tend to
use standard Aqua).
Charles
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