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Re: Checkbox group box (was Re: Coloring NSBox background?)
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Re: Checkbox group box (was Re: Coloring NSBox background?)


  • Subject: Re: Checkbox group box (was Re: Coloring NSBox background?)
  • From: "Clark S. Cox III" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 15:36:15 -0500

On Saturday, Nov 23, 2002, at 15:11 US/Eastern, Chris Ridd wrote:

On 23/11/02 8:03 pm, Clark S. Cox III <email@hidden> wrote:


On Saturday, Nov 23, 2002, at 14:47 US/Eastern, Chris Ridd wrote:

On 23/11/02 7:35 pm, Dustin Voss <email@hidden> wrote:
There's a Carbon control which is a group box similar to NSBox, except
that the title has a checkbox beside it, so you can activate or
deactivate the box as a whole. Very useful. I think that's what Steve
is talking about.

It was. (Steve confirmed this off-list.)

I just checked in the HIG and Apple discourages having group boxes
that are
also buttons - see pages 149 to 152.

I don't see anywhere in that page range that they discourage using
check boxes or popup menus as the title of a group box, in fact, at the
bottom of page 149, it says "Group boxes can be untitled or titled.
Titles can be static text, a checkbox label, or text in a pop-up menu".

Perhaps I read too much into "use additional space between controls to
create groups of controls, rather than group boxes. [...] The
following figures show examples of how to successfully re-create dialogs
using space rather than group boxes."

Figure 8-3 is an example where before has a button in the box title, and the
after doesn't.

Maybe they do allow them after all.

Yeah, I think the thing that they are actually discouraging there is the use of group boxes at all, when there is a less dramatic way of grouping items available. That is, the message I take away from that section is that group boxes should be used sparingly, because all three figures in that section actually show how to avoid using group boxes.
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