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Re: Keyboard shortcuts for views in toolbar items
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts for views in toolbar items


  • Subject: Re: Keyboard shortcuts for views in toolbar items
  • From: Sherm Pendley <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 12:51:23 -0400

On Tuesday, October 15, 2002, at 11:42 AM, j o a r wrote:

we have a number of toolbar items that contain values - text fields, et.c. - and they cannot simply be replaced or complemented by menu items.

Not by themselves, they can't. But, not including these functions on the menu on that basis would be akin to not including a "File|Open" item because it requires an additional dialog.

I would have the menu item bring up a sheet that contains the relevant widgets - text fields, whatever - along with some explanatory text and "cancel" and "ok" buttons. That's the "full" interface to the functionality. Having the same functionality available in an abbreviated form, as a text field in the toolbar, is a useful shortcut for directly entering the required text without going through the full sheet.

What if the toolbar item is not even in the window - what then? Of course I could disable the menu item in that case, but wouldn't it be very weird to have menu items that requires the presense of a toolbar item to be enabled? Not very intuitive for the user.

It sounds to me as if you're using the toolbar as sort of an Info panel. If that's the case, I'd suggest also adding a real info panel; when the relevant menu item is selected, simply bring the info panel to the front, and give focus to the related item.

We have a huge enterprise application with a lot of windows and a lot of toolbar items. I'm not sure that it would be possible to have menu items for each and every one of these toolbar items in the main menu bar. What then?

No one is suggesting that menu items should be as quick and convenient as the equivalent toolbar shortcuts - they *are* shortcuts, after all, the whole point of them is to provide a quicker, more convenient means of accomplishing some task.

sherm--
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