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Re: metallized interface


  • Subject: Re: metallized interface
  • From: Keith Pritchard <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:18:06 +0000

On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 05:59 pm, Nicholas Riley wrote:
You talk about this as if it's a new thing. AppleCD Audio Player has
been around since Apple shipped the AppleCD SC in 1988 or so, and it's
had a CD player-like interface. A similar interface was used for the
Apple Video Player, and the really ugly replacement audio player
(whose name I am forgetting).

Even the old Mac four-function Calculator looked different with the
rounded-window style, squarish buttons and a patterned background.
Mac OS 7.5 introduced a 'utility background' pattern which was
user-selectable and applied to DA-type single-window apps such as the
Scrapbook and Find File.

I was talking about it in a "new thing" kind of way because I thought it was new to maxosx ?

Perhaps I'm mis-remembering... I thought it was only fairly recently that the metallised look was introduced into macosx. I could well be wrong, if so, apologies although I stick by my feelings that whether new or old it's not a great idea.

I'm not considering earlier versions of macos because they had enough GUI problems IMHO so as to make any discussion about metal or otherwise insignificant.

There is a pretty consistent history of different UI treatment for real
world device and single window apps going back to the Mac's
introduction. It hasn't been available as a standard feature until
Jaguar, so it was always harder to implement, but I hope people will
continue to use the same restraint they always did.

I doubt it.

I never *really* made the switch to mac before macosx, despite buying them regularly and keeping up to date with things. I never liked the aged OS.

Along with me comes a whole lot of new users and developers most of whom will be coming from windows.

Windows developers are used to..... getting round things by doing things their own way and pretty much ignoring GUI guidelines (MS leads the way on that but has the advantage that when they change their mind, they can change the guidelines to fit their whims).

So I doubt it'll stay as pure as you hope.

If it does, well, I still don't applaud having a different style but at least it will signify something I suppose.

Problem is as a user, the metal look is pretty imposing and as I
said above, I even like it for the odd window, but if all the
panels, sheets, dialogues started displaying in metal, it would be
WAY too much for me.

This is probably why Apple doesn't do it, and doesn't recommend it
either.


obviously.

...however, already people are asking how to make all the windows metal irrespective of the "guidelines" so it's well worth pointing out why it's a bad idea as a user experience.

Welcome to metal overload and an inconsistent GUI.

Keith
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