Re: Request for comments: archive for mailing lists
Re: Request for comments: archive for mailing lists
- Subject: Re: Request for comments: archive for mailing lists
- From: Bertrand Mansion <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 00:06:01 +0200
FROM: James DiPalma
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Interesting. You will not support pro developers having a list where
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they can ask questions, but you want pro developers to answer
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questions on cocoa-dev and write tutorials and articles for mamasam.
I didn't say I WANT PRO developers to write tutorials FOR mamasam. I want to
offer a place where ANYONE, considering himself/herself as a pro developer
or not, can contribute to write articles for EVERYONE, not for mamasam or
for me. :-)
As I am not a pro developer myself, I just don't want to be excluded and see
every good developers go to the pro list.
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I continue to answer questions on cocoa-dev, but I can't answer why I
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do. Questions on cocoa-dev often come from strongly defensive posters
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readily insulting Apple, cocoa-pro, NeXT and me personally.
I've been searching your name on cocoa.mamasam.com and you return 102
matches. Most of them are answers. This makes a good contributor of you ;-)
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Answers
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often have confident, incorrect information that confuses people and
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must feel insulting to some based on how defensive people get;
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cocoa-dev is actually a sometimes (and way too often) hostile list to
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participate in.
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As an experienced cocoa user, I find it difficult to participate in
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cocoa-dev and impossible to use cocoa-dev to ask questions. Reality is
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that cocoa-pro was started as a resource to people answering questions
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on cocoa-dev; cocoa-pro was never meant to discourage pros from
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answering questions on cocoa-dev.
I agree with you that it is sometimes stressing to post to the list. I
participate to a few other lists and IMO, there are some hostile persons on
cocoadev in comparison. As an example, some replies I got in my attempt to
improve my contribution to cocoa community. This is maybe due to the fact
that the other lists I use relate to open-source projects ?
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However, if people treat cocoa-pro users as separatists it will further
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discourage me (and maybe others) from participating in cocoa-dev.
At the moment, the traffic on cocoa-pro is low. Of course, it might become a
nicer place to ask questions and post answers in the future. I don't think I
am treating cocoa-pro users as separatists, I am just anxious to see
themselves separate from the rest of us. Anyway, when cocoa-pro will have
lots of postings, I will index it as I said to Andreas. For now, the
cocoa-pro archives are easy to browse as they are.
Bertrand Mansion
Mamasam
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