Re: Extending Safari
Re: Extending Safari
- Subject: Re: Extending Safari
- From: Greg Langmead <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:00:01 -0800
I have a follow-up about the Adobe SVG viewer Leonard mentioned. The
Adobe plugin is a plugin in the sense that its rectangular area is
specified inside the HTML, and the plugin cannot negotiate a different
size. Is this always good enough for SVG, or should SVG really dictate
the size itself? I am in fact slightly confused on this point. My
mental analogy is with PICTs, which can be arbitrarily scaled but yet
have a notion of a default size. Apps that import PICTs usually ask
for this size and use it, in essence letting the PICT decide its
rectangle whenever possible. I figured something similar was really
necessary to do SVG properly, and that is related to my question about
tighter integration.
A second point is that SVG should ideally be sprinkled throughout an
XHTML document, not stored in separate files. Does the Adobe plugin
only handle the case where a separate URL pointing to a file with just
SVG markup is indicated? Again, my understanding was that a better
implementation would require tighter integration, where individual
nodes of XML could be passed off to a component.
IE on Windows has the IBehavior, a component interface which has the
integration features I am looking for, but so far it appears to be a
unique browser in this regard. I am looking for shreds of evidence
that Safari may become a platform for this sort of extensibility like
IE. As new W3C standards emerge, it is possible to write behaviors for
IE that implement them (our company makes a free MathML behavior called
MathPlayer that does this) without waiting for the browser writer to
add that support themselves.
Greg
On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 09:42 AM, Leonard Rosenthol wrote:
At 8:57 AM -0800 2/12/03, Greg Langmead wrote:
Does anyone know Apple's plans for supporting KPart extensions, or
some other integration technology, in Safari?
I don't speak for Apple, but I would be very surprised to see KPart
implemented in Safari - unless Apple were to attempt that system wide
(which I doubt, having gotten burned badly with OpenDoc).
Don't get me wrong - KPart is quite cool, BUT it's also tightly tied
into KDE and Qt...
What I'm looking for is any clue to Apple's plans with regard to
KPart or other browser-extension technology, and barring that, what
their plans for SVG and/or MathML are. I'm hoping someone here,
maybe someone from Apple, can point me in the right direction.
I can tell you that the Adobe SVG Viewer works just fine inside of
Safari...
Leonard
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