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Re: Cocoa approachable by non-programmers ?
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Re: Cocoa approachable by non-programmers ?


  • Subject: Re: Cocoa approachable by non-programmers ?
  • From: Andres Santiago Perez-Bergquist <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:03:43 -0500

My programming experience started with LOGO in elementary school, then hopped through QuickBASIC and HyperTalk on my own to Pascal and FORTRAN in early high school. The year after that, I learned C++ in the advanced programming class (on my own, from the online help in Borland Turbo C++ on the nasty machines our high school had), without ever having seen C before. As a result, I've never developed a firm grasp of what exactly is legal and what isn't in straight C, and severely dislike writing procedural (as opposed to object-oriented) code. I think that many younger programmers who hopped straight into OOP are far more likely to be familiar with C++ as a monolithic entity rather than as an extension to C, but the overall Objective-C and Cocoa documentation seems to ignore us too. Thankfully, Apple added support for Objective-C++ last year, and I find it a godsend. I can now do things like declare variables right when I need them and access the amazingly lovely STL from inside a Cocoa app.

I hate it when they say "this is like printf", and nowhere does it say what "printf" is like.

WIth respect to learning C, I routinely write code with multiple pointer dereferences combined with non-pointer member access, but I still don't know how to do anything with a printf. If you want output, that's what streams are for. :)
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