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Re: Why Cocoa (say vs Carbon)
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Re: Why Cocoa (say vs Carbon)


  • Subject: Re: Why Cocoa (say vs Carbon)
  • From: Jeff LaMarche <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 08:53:16 -0500

On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 09:30 PM, Andy Satori wrote:

The other thing the is missing is a data access model. A framework to wrap the fancy ODBC Manager in Jaguar, with some basic ODBC drivers would be a perfect start. Leverage Apple software, and provide a framework to the ODBC datasources and an ODBC driver for FileMaker, or the WebObjects supplied OpenBase.

Sounds like you're describing EOF. Unfortunately, it's only available for Cocoa if you've got WebObjects, something that a great many of us have griped about in the past.

And for the sake of really grabbing developer mindshare? drop the price of WebObjects, or bundle it ala IIS and .NET. I've spent the past year doing C#.NET work in a Fortune 1000 shop, and Cocoa & WebObjects flat kill it for function and form, but being the only Mac user in the shop ( that isn't a graphic artist in the monkeying^H^H^H^H^H^H marketing department ), I'm kinda outvoted. But a platform that offers world class tools (PB/IB/WO are damned close) for a sub $600 / machine pop is an awfully sexy sale.

On the contrary, WO's price is extremely competitive; the price is not what's holding WO back - Apple's lack of marketing is, as well as the perception of many that products made by Apple have no place in the Enterprise. I do agree that PB could use some enhancements, but WO can compete on it's merits, it just usually doesn't get a chance to even be considered.
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