Re: Apple and Cocoa (why don't they eat their own dog food?)
Re: Apple and Cocoa (why don't they eat their own dog food?)
- Subject: Re: Apple and Cocoa (why don't they eat their own dog food?)
- From: Philip George <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 05:27:00 -0600
There are sufficient Cocoa/Carbon API's for rolling your own windows
and widgets.
- pg
On Saturday, January 11, 2003, at 03:59 AM, Steve Gehrman wrote:
When is Apple going to start eating their own dog food? Every "Cocoa"
app Apple has release recently (except for Mail) uses custom buttons
and controls and uses none of the standard Cocoa controls. Obviously
the standard Cocoa appearance is too ugly for Steve Jobs tastes.
Take a quick look at Safari:
- None of the buttons are standard Cocoa buttons (they are all images).
- Not using a standard NSToolbar. I've been waiting for years now for
Apple to fix NSToolbar, but it still sucks and is super limited in
features.
- Not using the metallic window texture. If you look at Safari, the
top of the window is metallic, but the window resizing control at the
bottom right is not. This is a problem that I had in my app. When the
window is set to the standard metallic texture, the window resize
control gets really huge and ugly and it's too big and won't fit in
the standard space below the scroll bar.
I've only scratched the surface. iCal, iTunes, iDVD, iMovie, Final
Cut Pro, Address Book, etc all use custom controls. If Apple would
just fix Cocoa, all apps could look good and it would save them time
too.
Cocoa is still looks very "beta". Apple - please fix Cocoa so our
apps can look good too!! :)
-steve
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