Re: Forum for advanced Cocoa questions
Re: Forum for advanced Cocoa questions
- Subject: Re: Forum for advanced Cocoa questions
- From: James DiPalma <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 23:46:24 -0700
I am long time cocoa programmer and do not think of myself as elitist.
When cocoa-pro was started, it did not deter me from searching
cocoa-dev's messages and occasionally providing some information.
If you want to equate cocoa-pro with elitism, I think you are
misunderstanding why cocoa-pro adds value to Cocoa's entire community:
cocoa-pro encourages some pro developers to participate in ways that
cocoa-dev does not.
From: Greg Hulands <email@hidden>
I would have to say that the segregation of content is a bad idea.
Colorful.
I think most people take this view as there is little to no traffic on
cocoa pro.
Some reasons that I don't post many questions to cocoa-pro (which
separates me from "most people"):
1. Sometimes reading documentation answers a questions that doesn't
need asking
2. Most questions and too many answers on cocoa-pro (yes cocoa-pro)
come from newbies
3. When I have a functionality question, I usually write some
exploratory code to figure it out
Reasons that I don't post questions to cocoa-dev
1. Many of my questions go completely unanswered (I'm suggesting that
some questions can only be understood by a small percentage of
cocoa-dev posters and when mixed with cocoa-dev's volume, these
questions can simply be overlooked).
2. I don't know who on cocoa-dev I can trust; when I do read a thread,
many posts contain completely wrong information that is often not
corrected.
3. Too much traffic combined with too little new-to-me information
that I can't justify keeping up with daily messages.
4. A few distasteful interactions when trying to be helpful.
Omni's and apple's mail lists are the best as they are searchable from
a single interface at cocoa.mamasam.com.
mamasam chooses not to include cocoa-pro messages. I don't know why,
maybe they don't see any requests to include cocoa-pro mail, maybe they
want to discourage cocoa pro's from participating in their community,
and maybe cocoadevcentral is preventing mamasam from archiving that
list. Again, I don't know, but there is not a technical barrier. I am
disappointed, and I think its a mistake.
I remember when this came up once before about how pro is associated
with elitism and what not. For the good of the community I think it is
best to amalgamate resources and not segregate.
I disagree. Cocoa-pro has not changed my level of participation in
cocoa-dev and has encouraged me to ask questions that I would not have
posted to cocoa-dev.
-jim
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