Re: troubling article
Re: troubling article
- Subject: Re: troubling article
- From: Chaz McGarvey <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 01:41:36 -0600
On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 01:02 AM, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
At 23:43 Uhr -0400 10.06.2003, Andy Satori wrote:
In any of the languages, with the exception of VB (which doesn't have
that call directly implemented), typing 'GetUser(' would prompt me
with a tool tip containing the parameters and types from the
Windows.h definitions. In the Cocoa world you have to dig through
poorly indexed, HTML or PDF materials.
Actually, I just double-click the function name and hold down the
command or option keys, and voila, I get either the header for it, or
the HTML help reference entry. I admit, it's a little hidden, but it's
there, and it's documented.
I would love to know how fast it works for you. It takes about 10
seconds to look up a request in the documentation on my PowerMac
2x800Mhz 512MB RAM machine. Requesting the declaration in the header
file takes considerable less time, and fortunately most of the time I
merely need to be reminded of the parameters to pass a function so this
works well. It would be nice if the documentation was faster. Come to
think of it, just browsing the documentation is rather slow, too.
Sure, I would love if it was done on mouse-over like in Eclipse, but
hey ...
That doesn't mean that I don't long for Code Completion, and ToolTips
with function parameters in them.
True. Apple could probably rip off lots of features from Eclipse and
make a number of us folks happy.
I don't find hunting HTML documentation in a Safari Tabbed set for
that stuff fun, when I'm spoiled to having so very handy.
Try the option/command + double-click thing. It saves you a lot of
time, though apparently it fails to work in Objective C++ projects.
But I have to admit I don't trust the source of that article enough
to really believe he gave MacOS a decent try.
First, my own experience was radically different: I myself learned
Cocoa in one day. The only thing that ever was a real show-stopper for
me was that Cocoa doesn't allow hiding NSViews like you can orderOut a
window.
Second, the page continues about halfway into the article (or at
least what I'd expect to be halfway through the article if it wasn't
that short) with an all-caps headline (don't they have a designer that
got a fit about that?) and an entirely unrelated article. It looks
like he's trying to fill space or something, but it definitely doesn't
look the way I'd expect a professional and trustworthy newspaper's
pages to look.
Third, he doesn't say *what* he actually tried to code, where he hit
a wall, ... anything. There is no way for others to validate his
claims of the Mac's inappropriateness, to reproduce what he did and
where he had problems, or to find out whether his claims still ring
true when 10.3 comes out...
Chaz
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