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Re: [ANN] NSTableView Assistant
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Re: [ANN] NSTableView Assistant


  • Subject: Re: [ANN] NSTableView Assistant
  • From: Chris Meyer <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 17:22:52 -0700

Hi Uli,

Thanks for the great beginning of a tool.

After a quick use I noticed the following items:

- importing from a Nib file may contain multiple tables; it might be nice to give the user the choice of which table for which to generate the code.
- some column names might not be valid objective-c names (i.e. "Date-time"); the user might want to edit the mapping of column names to method names
- the 'item' have code for NSCoding (old style and keyed, of course) and NSCopying; the power really starts to show if it does this!
- the table could easily implement (optionally) default methods for dragging/dropping rows and a variety of other things (double clicking, etc.)
- an even more radical thought is that this entire thing could be done with NO generated code; only a library and a generic nibbed-object that handled the fields (more on this)

Ideally tools like this shouldn't contain any editable code for the user; yet the user should be able to customize any aspect of things. This is what always frustrated me using 'wizards' in the Windows development environments; once code was generated you either had to modify and forget about using the wizard to 'add a column' or stay away from certain marked sections of code that the wizard would later use. Cocoa is nice because for the most part it gets around this problem to some degree; editing Nibs and adding outlets and other connections is a painless process. Every bit of code that the user has to write is absolutely necessary and also generally something that IB doesn't care about. It would be nice to make this table editor something similar.

If the 'item' were simply a generic list of fields stored in an array then all of the niceties (NSCopying, NSCoding, drag&drop, etc.) of that object could be hidden away in that object and the user would not have to even have the code for 'item'; an array might not be most efficient but this would be a detail that would be hidden from the user so it would be easy to change. The wizard then would be concerned with connecting user specific actions to the fields of that item, similar to how IB connects outlets and targets. But the table wizard could have a whole bunch of default behavior for the common cases so a user might not have to do any specific coding.

Ideally in the end you end up with a wizard that can generate AND EDIT your items that fit within a table view. There are a ton of extensions to this idea such as support for undo, hooking up the items to a database, handling outline views, etc. Also, I've never used EO framework so I might just be describing that; I kind of get the feeling that it is something along those lines already. Anyone with experience care to comment?

In any case, any chance of putting this up on Source Forge? I might be interesting in contributing a couple of more ideas to it (of course Source Forge and .nib files aren't the happiest bedfellows unfortunately).

It's nice to see something useful come out of the original 'troubling article' post!

Chris Meyer
LQ Graphics, Inc.

On Saturday, June 14, 2003, at 08:59 AM, Uli Kusterer wrote:

Folks,

that recent thread inspired me to write a little "Assistant" (or in non-Apple parlance "Wizard") that generates the necessary backend classes for an NSTableView. If anyone would like to test (or even use) it, point your browser at:

http://www.zathras.de/programming/cocoa_stuff.php

Right now, the assistant touts the following features:

-> Extracts column identifiers from NIB files
-> Generates ObjC source code for list items, table delegate and data source (the latter two may be combined into one class if desired)
-> Auto-generates code to display custom cell types such as Pushbuttons, check boxes, combo boxes, NSImages etc.

Source code to the assistant is available under the GPL (submissions are welcome!), while the generated code is explicitly exempt from the license (i.e. you can use it for commercial projects).

Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
http://www.zathras.de
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