Re: Is there a ready chart plotting view?
Re: Is there a ready chart plotting view?
- Subject: Re: Is there a ready chart plotting view?
- From: John Anderson <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 21:43:15 -0500
Oleg,
I guess that I will take the lead on the source-code "Rosetta-stone"
facet of the project.
I think that we may need to just start by identifying which NeXT
classes, methods and functions do not in Cocoa.
To start with:
NXStream -> NSPipe???
Furthermore, I purpose that we divide the project into essentially two
tasks:
(1) Updating the old NeXT source code to Cocoa.
(2) Updating the old ".nib" files, there are only two , and the old
Palette itself, to contemporary Interface Builder.
Dave and I seem to think that renaming the project to something like
"OpenPlotPalette" may be in order. This would have the three-fold
implication of linking OpenStep, open source and OpenGL ... the idea
being that in the future we (or someone else) might want to extend this
to 3D via OpenGl.
Truly yours,
John Anderson, Detroit
ps: If I run into any "Ancient Slavonic," I am definitely sending it
to you.
On Sunday, Mar 30, 2003, at 22:19 America/Detroit, Oleg Svirgstin wrote:
Hi all,
I found I don't understand NextStep of the 1991, too. It looks like
Early
English or Ancient Slavonic to me.
Reading sources of NextStep 3.x I did not feel that helpless.
It would be nice if somebody compiled a kind of phrase-book to
translate
between NX-91 (NextStep, Old Cocoa) and NS-03 (Yet Another NextStep, or
Modern Cocoa). Ways, habits, etc.
Digging that golden mine looks like a promising source of inspiration,
solutions and so on. Have you heard that every new concept in this
world is
just a properly forgotten old concept? :)
Best regards
Oleg
From: John Anderson <email@hidden>
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 20:57:15 -0500
To: Alex <email@hidden>
Cc: Scott Anguish <email@hidden>, Dave Sopchak
<email@hidden>,
"Douglas A. Welton" <email@hidden>, Oleg Svirgstin
<email@hidden>, <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: Is there a ready chart plotting view?
Alex,
Apparently, there are at least two archives of NeXT source code being
hosted by peak.org:
A..) ftp:://next-ftp.peak.org
and
B.) ftp:://ftp.peak.org
These are real gold mines of Obj-C source code and go way beyond just
the graphing stuff we are currently interested in (Again, thanks a big
thanks goes out to Scott Anguish for pointer this out).
We have had some problems logging into these sites with Finder or a
web
browser. So, using an FTP client such as Transmit or command-line ftp
may save you some hassle.
After an cursory survey of the landscape, we are considering updating
XYPlotPalette to Cocoa, (it was derived from "nxyPlot1.90) and is
available at:
ftp:://ftp.peak.org
/next-ftp/next/sourcelibrary/palettes/XYPlotPalette
Two issues have already come-up:
A.) Is there some way to import old NeXT .nib files into contemporary
Interface Builder?
B.) What became of the old "NXStream" class ... is it now "NSPipe"?
Truly yours,
John Anderson
On Sunday, Mar 30, 2003, at 19:40 America/Detroit, Alex wrote:
Hi Scott, please, could you check those once more, I tried them but
can't connect, but now I'm interested too :)
ftp.next.peak org
ftp://next.ftp.peak.org
TIA
Alex
Am Samstag, 29.03.03, um 17:47 Uhr (US/Pacific) schrieb Scott
Anguish:
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