[OFF] Localisation (was Re: Security Framework: authorization rights.)
[OFF] Localisation (was Re: Security Framework: authorization rights.)
- Subject: [OFF] Localisation (was Re: Security Framework: authorization rights.)
- From: Wade Tregaskis <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:34:07 +1100
Get over yourself friend. Or do you think your crazy Australian accent
is English english? Where's your proper RP after all? And it's not
"lappy," it's "laptop." And it's not "brekky" or "breaky" or whatever
you've come up with. It's "breakfast." And the store is called
Woolworth's, not Wooly's.
I've never actually heard anyone call those things by those
abbreviations. Maybe "Wooly's", but even then... Woolworth's aren't
big in Australia, so I've rarely heard them referred to by anything.
What's a RP, btw?
And those things would be largely just colloquialisms, anyway. They're
part of the culture more than the language. Obviously when you're
localising software you want to take into account such cultural
elements anyway, which is all the more reason why the proper
localisation codes must be respected. If I use "en", I expect it to be
an unbiased traditional English, without any references to particulars
of English, US or Australian (or wherever else) culture. Traditional
English in this sense is British English, but definition.
That US developers presume themselves the centre of the universe, so to
speak, and try to enforce their culture onto other people is both
offensive and arrogant. I'm not about to go and burn everything that
offends as such, because the vast majority of the offense is in replies
such as yours, where you try to defend what could otherwise be passed
of as an oversight, naivety, or whatever else.
Here's the obvious fact: languages evolve, and change, among disparate
groups. I might instead suggest you accept this fact, rather than
appear such an idiot, unaware of otherwise intuitively obvious facts
of life on planet earth.
Or, of course you could switch to a system developed by Australians.
Oh wait...
I think you're getting [logically] a bit off track there. Obviously
there aren't any notable OS's noted to have come out of Australia, but
that's not really relevant. I'm talking about language differences,
which is a consequence of physical location and interaction. It is not
necessarily any relation to the mindset of "group achievement", which
you are attacking. Rather unnecessarily, I might add.
Gross patriotism is a dangerous thing. It tends to have a very
selective memory.
Wade Tregaskis
-- Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
P.S. Ross Hayden's original message was addressed to me personally,
but I've replied to the list because I feel it might help explain more
rationally what I've been saying already.
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