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Re: Menu validation in Panther
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Re: Menu validation in Panther


  • Subject: Re: Menu validation in Panther
  • From: j o a r <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:02:40 +0200

On 2003-10-04, at 08.19, Christopher Holland wrote:

I realize this. I certainly wasn't talking about ANYthing that could be giving away any sort of "trade secrets." If I thought it did then I would not have posted. I tried to make the description as vague as possible without losing my meaning. But, I stated quite clearly that I thought it was probably a misunderstanding that I had with the previous or current documentation.

Well, you did give away information about a upcoming feature in Panther, but even if you had not done that we would still not have been able to discuss the topic you tried to raise. It's not only about keeping new features secret, it's also (as I tried to say in my previous message) about allowing people to form their opinion on Panther based on the released version and not beta versions.
Don't spread FUD about things not working in the Panther betas, if you think you've spotted a bug, or if you simply see something ou don't understand (that could be a bug in the documentation), create a new case for this via RadarWeb. Do you want to help out to make Panther great? File bug reports and feature requests via RadarWeb!

I don't think it is a bug, I am just wanting to learn if there was a reason that the API was changed (if it even was) because I personally am interested in things like API design. There are plenty of people on this list, you included, that could probably guess as to why an API would be altered to include the change listed and I wanted the input .... which apparently is not as much fun as what I got.

We're not allowed to have discussions on this topic yet. Just wait a little while, it's not going to kill you. Yes, a lot of things will be new in Panther and people will have to talk about it, ask questions, learn about new tools and API's - but it will have to wait.

It was a question meant to learn something from. Nothing else.
Like I said, my code is working and I don't feel like it is a bug ... just interested in the thoughts behind the change for my own curiosity and future knowledge. Was I misinterpreting the docs before? Or was I using a bug to my advantage without knowing it (which would be nice to know so that I can NOT do that in the future)? Should I have known better? Additionally, how am I to know that it IS a bug and not just a "fix" from the previous API? Others may be more knowledgeable and be able to tell. Etc. etc. etc.

People never post questions about Panther to the list with malicious intent, and while it's of course slightly better than if you had, it's still wrong.

I would love to have been able to ask this question somewhere where somebody wouldn't freak out...but there is no place like that. I didn't see it as a bug...but something that was probably a "fix" from the previous API. This happened to break something that I had done and others may want to look for the same thing in their code.

Who freaked out? Certainly not I.

Even people who pay for the seeds (which I do) have questions that the group can answer...and I don't want to waste one of my tech calls on something so inane when I may need it for something more important later. It was a basic question that had only the slightest bit to do with Panther, per se, and more to do with API design.

You keep saying the same thing over and over - you had this question about new functionality in Panther that you wanted to get off your chest. I knew that from your first message in this thread. Having payed for your ADC account doesn't give you any more right to chat about it in a public forum.

You claim that your question was not really about Panther, well then - why don't you turn this thread back on topic by starting over with a question that's only about things available on Jaguar?

j o a r
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 >Re: Menu validation in Panther (From: j o a r <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Menu validation in Panther (From: Christopher Holland <email@hidden>)

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