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Re: [Slightly OT]:Software Update app & "inactive" items
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Re: [Slightly OT]:Software Update app & "inactive" items


  • Subject: Re: [Slightly OT]:Software Update app & "inactive" items
  • From: "Brad Peterson" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 02:55:09 +0000

Hi,

Indeed, I'm not looking to force the user to do anything, nor force Software Update to do anything.

However, it is (I've found through hard-earned experience) that users don't often use Software Update and that even if they do, it's quite common for some updates which we (as developers) take for granted to be marked as inactive.

All I was looking to do was offer the user the option of (a) checking the current ver. of Java, (b) checking to ensure that if an update is needed, it hasn't been disabled in Software Update, and (c) if it has been disabled, re-enable it and launch Software Update if the user would like.

So, I'm not looking to enforce this on them, but merely make the process as smooth as it can be should they require such assistance. :)

Getting back to the original question... does anyone here know where the inactive list is stored? I couldn't find it, but would surely love to at least have this as an option should I need it.

Thanks,

Brad


From: Andreas Mayer <email@hidden>
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: [Slightly OT]:Software Update app & "inactive" items
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 01:24:37 +0200

Am Freitag, 12.09.03 um 23:20 Uhr schrieb Brad Peterson:

So, I'd like to know if anyone knows where the inactive items are stored so that I can make sure the Java update isn't in there if the system needs it for my tools.

Well, if it's in there it's probably because the user put it there. You should assume, she did it for a reason.

In any case, your software should not try to do something that the user explicitly didn't want to happen - as updating a part of the system that she didn't want to be updated.

So, if your software requires a recent version of Java, tell the user so, and maybe - if you find that necessary - tell her how to re-enable a package in Software Update.


I'm I just kind of paranoid or is there an increasing number of developers that tries to tell the user what to do? Please mind this quote from the Aqua Human Interface Guidelines:

"Allow the user, not the computer, to initiate and control actions. Some applications attempt to take care of the user by offering only alternatives judged good for the user or that protect the user from having to make detailed decisions. This approach mistakenly puts the computer, not the user, in control."

(And if you not already have - read the rest of it, too: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/ AquaHIGuidelines/)


bye. Andreas.
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