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Re: cocoa app from scratch
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Re: cocoa app from scratch


  • Subject: Re: cocoa app from scratch
  • From: Yann Bizeul <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:35:27 +0200

> Yea, maybe it's a pain in the butt and totally unnecessary, but
> wouldn't starting from scratch, programmatically creating all of the
> various things needed for something simple give you a possibly *MUCH*
> better view of what's going on under the hood?
There is always occasions left by Apple to force us to go under the
hood, I don't feel the need, or I am not masoschiste enough to do
everything by hand just for fun :-)

> I mean, I don't care how many times you read the docs on the text
> system, you will gain infinitely more knowledge about how it works by
> setting it up programmatically instead of dragging an NSTextView into
> a window in IB and having it just work.
And at which abstraction level do you stop ? Even if you manage NSText
objects by yourself, there is a bunch of abstraction behind it. So you
can have the same attitude ragarding IB than regarding Cocoa by itself.
I hope I'm clear :-)

> I agree with you David that it would probably *not* be a good idea to
> try this as a starting point in Cocoa, but I don't think that in
> general trying it would make a person a much better cocoa programmer,
> if simply because it gives you a bottom up view of how the system
> works.
Why not, but I don't think a programmer would not make a good Cocoa app
if he make everything possible to avoid using it ! I'm pretty sure a
good way to make good products is to try to be the user, and try to
think and act like a (poor) user :-)

--
Yann Bizeul - yann at tynsoe.org
http://projects.tynsoe.org/
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