Re: cocoa app from scratch
Re: cocoa app from scratch
- Subject: Re: cocoa app from scratch
- From: Steven Harms <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:03:34 -0700
Ihar,
I believe that, like you, we are both in the early stages of learning
Cocoa and would like to apply our experiences in other languages to make
learning Cocoa easy.
Part of the heuristic of 'how to learn' starts with an editor, a
compiler, and "here is how you declare a variable" - we then move to
conditionals, loops, objects etc. Without that education I felt very
naked in the O'Reilly books.
I read the first 15 chapters or so of Stephen Kochan's _Programming in
Objective-C_ by SAMS press. I am now going through Hillegass' book and
am very pleased (outside of the mail i sent moments ago!).
Kochan's book gives enough familiarity in the basics to demystify a lot
of the Cocoa work -- Hillegass does a very good job in building up the
basics. I would recommend this path to the absolute beginner.
Steven
Ihar 'Philips' Filipau wrote:
Hello!
I was just wondering, is there any way of building cocoa application
without Xcode/IB?
I'm trying to learn this stuff by myself. But I'm not really
/visual/ programmer - and I'm getting bored of IB pretty fast. It
needs *way* *too* *much* mouse clicking. It's just impossible (*).
Most of the tutorials on Internet are just not applicabable to
10.3.*'s Xcode/IB due to new names/features. And most of this tutorial
are just "click here, then here, then click here, then click here,
then here." In the end you are getting something - seems like XML file
insode of bundle, which is not that readable/understandable. And you
can only hope that this next "click here" exists in my version of IB.
As a total newbie it have been proven ver difficult.
So I'm looking for some sample of Cocoa application (say HelloWorld)
which is written without IB.
Any pointers to FAQs/RTFMs will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
(*) Yeah, normally I don't use mouse. At all. MacOS itsef user-wise
requires much less mouse waiving.
P.S. I have had some experience with GTK's Glade and Borland's C++
Builder. Is there anything like GTK's Glade for Cocoa - what basicly
generates source code for given piece of GUI, which one (I'm
oversimplifying here) needs to call from main(). I need something I
can look into and understand what is going on.
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