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Re: ATSUI, AAT and OpenType
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Re: ATSUI, AAT and OpenType


  • Subject: Re: ATSUI, AAT and OpenType
  • From: Aki Inoue <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 09:47:55 -0700

Hi everybody,

In short, the Hiragino family is what we internally call a "hybrid" fonts.

It is true that outline data in these fonts is encoded in CFF, but that doesn't limit us to also attach AAT tables.
All these fonts have both OpenType and AAT feature tables.

Aki

On 2004/06/23, at 1:09, Uli Zappe wrote:

Hi,

I'm forwarding the following post from the Omnigroup's OS X developer list to this group and to Aki upon recommendation by that list.

Uli

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Hi all,

the following is a quite specific question, but since I didn't find a dedicated forum for Mac OS X typographic technology anywhere, I figured that maybe the wisdom of this mailing list might even cover this topic. :-)

Conventional wisdom says that ATSUI deals only with Apple's own AAT format as far as typographic features are concerned. I.e. you need an AAT enhanced font to see any typographic features offered in the Typography Panel that you can reach from the Action pull-down menu in Cocoa's Font Panel; OpenType fonts with typographic features in the OpenType format won't work (the Typography Panel incorrectly reports "No typographic features in this font").

This is a bad thing because there are thousands of OpenType fonts, whereas the only AAT enhanced fonts I know of are the ones that come with Mac OS X.

But anyway, the strange thing is that there *are* a few OpenType fonts that do work although they do *not* incorporate the AAT table that is relevant for typographic features (the 'morx' table). These are some of the Asian Mac OS X system fonts that Apple delivers in CFF (= PostScript Type 1) OpenType format (*.otf), e.g. the Hiraginu family. The typographic features in these fonts are clearly encoded in the OpenType format, and yet the Cocoa Typography Panel displays them.

Now, the question is: in what do these CFF OpenType fonts differ from the "usual" CFF OpenType fonts that don't work? Does this mean that an OpenType font that's configured in some specific way will work with ATSUI?

Does anyone here have any idea/hint/link?

Thanks a lot in advance for any insight!

Bye
Uli
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