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Re: Unit testing framework suggestions?
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Re: Unit testing framework suggestions?


  • Subject: Re: Unit testing framework suggestions?
  • From: Marco Scheurer <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:14:26 +0200

On Sep 27, 2004, at 1:47 AM, Marcel Weiher wrote:

Of course you keep them "close" to the tested class, but you still have an instance of one class testing an instance of another class.

Huh? I have the class testing instance of itself. This seems perfectly reasonable and has caused me absolutely no problems. Why do you say an instance of one class testing an instance of another class? Do you mean an instance of the metaclass??

Yes, you've got method of the class object testing methods of the instance. These tests are no more internal than when implemented in another class. In both cases we probably start by instantiating an instance of the tested class. The testing code that needs to be written is the same.


And I don't buy the argument that writing tests in a category rather than a class change the whole perspective on unit testing and how it makes it so much more integrated in the development activity.

I wouldn't buy it from a purely theoretical point of view either, but after a little more than 1 year of JUnit (after a number of years with MPWTest), I can say that it has definitely been the case. YMMV.

Not fair. Comparing testing with Junit and testing with OCUnit is a bit like comparing programming in Java and programming in Objective C. I don't like JUnit either.


I'm a fan of categories, but in that case, I don't see the point. Writing a test using OCUnit and, I suppose, many others is just as trivial:

@implementation MyTestCase:TestCase
- (void) testWonder1
{
}
@end

Now I have to wonder: you complained above about an instance of one class testing an instance of a different class (which wasn't the case), and this is precisely the case here. How is MyTestCase related to the class being tested?

I was not complaining, but pointing out that having tests as class methods of the tested class or as instance methods of another class is not fundamentally different.


MyTestCase is a client of the tested class. It includes its interface. Again there is no difference, if you decide to move your category in other files, you would also need to include relevant headers.

One way or another the only required activities are to write test methods and to run them.

Not quite. At the very least, you need to link in the testing framework.

Well sure, and your tests run when you don't link to your framework?

Please note that I've said since the beginning that not subclassing TestCase was also possibility. And I'm not saying that it is necessarily worse, but that the claims that doing so makes the testing activity so much better, simpler, easier and enjoyable are wrong in my opinion.

marco

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