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Re: Unit testing framework suggestions?
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Re: Unit testing framework suggestions?


  • Subject: Re: Unit testing framework suggestions?
  • From: Martin Häcker <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:33:58 +0200

Wait a second folks. I thought the discussion was about Unit Tests and not about Acceptance Tests. Besides, if I cannot tests internals of a class, who will give me the courage to refactor these internals? Often these internals make more then 90% of the class. For example a Telescope class might have a public method isTracking that simply returns a BOOL ivar set by an internal method called 10x each second that that corrects the geometry of the flex mirror, reads a frame from the helper CCD, does some nasty image convolution, calls eigen vectors based RMS routine and passes the result to a weighting function that finally decides if the telescope is still tracking or the object was lost. For a user of the class Telescopes these might be unimportant details, but for me - the author of the class - these are the most important methods, and I would like to be able to test them no matter if someone have academic or other objections...

Now I'm not a heavywight in UnitTesting as some of you are, but I always took such occasions as a sign that one class is doing too much and that I should add a small class that encapsulates exactly these internals. So the Telescope merely becomes some sort of Facade to the real functionality.


Well, now that I think about it I'm a big fan of very little classes. Though I'm still lacking lot's of experience.

After thinking some more: It seems to me that if you have test-classes and source separated, it kind of enforces the use of many very small classes. Integrating the Tests in the Classes on the other hand enables them to do more - as it's still convenient to test.

Now I'm not sure which of the goals are more desirable to me or if there is a middle ground to go with. But this seems to make the engineering tradeoff more clear. Do you agree or am I overlooking something?

BTW, a good suite of tests enables refactoring by first braking few existing tests! If I make even a simple refactoring, say "rename method", and my test bar is still green I know I am in trouble and I do not have enough tests! When the tests are broken, I start fixing them. When the bar is green again, I commit. If the bar stays red for longer then an hour, I revert.

<g> When I rename a Method and a Test breaks I rather start swearing at my stupid tools that weren't good enough to rename the method call in the test too. </g>


Is there some sign on the horizon that we finally will be getting SmallTalk or Eclipse Level Refactoring support? Right now the Objective-C Tools are _very_ week. :(

cu Martin

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 >Re: Unit testing framework suggestions? (From: Tim Hart <email@hidden>)
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 >Re: Unit testing framework suggestions? (From: Marco Scheurer <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Unit testing framework suggestions? (From: Georg Tuparev <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Unit testing framework suggestions? (From: Marco Scheurer <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Unit testing framework suggestions? (From: Marco Scheurer <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Unit testing framework suggestions? (From: Christian Pekeler <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Unit testing framework suggestions? (From: Marco Scheurer <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Unit testing framework suggestions? (From: Georg Tuparev <email@hidden>)

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