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Re: Java vs. Objective-C for Cocoa
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Re: Java vs. Objective-C for Cocoa


  • Subject: Re: Java vs. Objective-C for Cocoa
  • From: Marcel Weiher <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 12:04:10 +0100


On 24 Apr 2005, at 10:50, Ondra Cada wrote:

Marcel,

On 24.4.2005, at 10:41, Marcel Weiher wrote:

You seem to think that refactoring is somehow type-dependent
...
Refactoring has nothing to do with type. If you rename the method 'whatever', you just change all senders.

The example the others pushed as the advantage over a regexp was "renaming a method aaa of class A, leaving a method aaa of class B intact". That has ***all*** to do with type.

The fact that some people have been exposed to refactoring in statically typed environment means they will give examples from that environment. It does not mean that refactoring or refactoring tools are tied to that sort of environment.


Once again, the simple fact that the Refactoring Browser originiated in Smalltalk, which has no static type information at all (unlike Objective-C), should be a STRONG hint to you that you are barking up the wrong tree...


Presumed we skip this, there is preciously little added value in smart refactoring as compared with a good regexp search&replace. Which Xcode has

Before making such broad pronouncements, I suggest you actually read the relevant literature. You might start here:


       http://st-www.cs.uiuc.edu/~droberts/tapos/TAPOS.htm

BTW, that also answers your question about bindings...

Cheers,

Marcel

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