But that's just another example of my frustration with Apple's documentation. It still needs a lot of work. I hope the folks at Apple are hearing this ;) 4 hours of lost work due to incomplete documentation is 4 hours less code written and 4 hours fewer features for applications that may entice people to switch to the Mac... or worse... the lost development time may --GASP!-- cause developers to choose to switch back to Windoze.