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Re: "untitled" vs "Untitled"
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Re: "untitled" vs "Untitled"


  • Subject: Re: "untitled" vs "Untitled"
  • From: Ali Ozer <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 23:58:15 -0700

Lowercasing a name is a technique that doesn't apply in all languages; in addition, these days we have the proxy icon, which more clearly states whether the document has been saved on disk, in addition to the dot in the close box, which indicates whether it is currently saved or not. Neither of these techniques was around when this guideline was written up. But these days the lowercasing of "untitled" is unnecessary in addition to being incomplete and unsightly.

Ali


Begin forwarded message:
From: "Brian K." <email@hidden>
Date: July 9, 2005 16:36:47 PDT
To: Ali Ozer <email@hidden>
Cc: email@hidden
Subject: Re: "untitled" vs "Untitled"


"Untitled" is perfectly fine, and the HI guidelines need to be addressed to clarify this.
Ali



No, it's not "perfectly fine". If you're using NSDocument, then you can just ignore it for now and let Apple fix it (which is one way of saying "it's perfectly fine," but developers should be aware of the subtitles in the reasoning behind this statement of "perfectly fine"; that is, that's because once apple fixes it, it will instantly become correct.)


The HI guidelines are already quite clear:
"Name a new document window “untitled”; leaving it lowercase makes it more obvious that the
window doesn’t have a name and encourages people to save the document. If the user chooses New
again before saving the first untitled window, name the second window “untitled 2,” and so on. Add
numbers to window titles only when there is more than one open untitled window. Don’t put a “1”
on the first untitled window, even after the user opens other new windows." (Page 181)


I apologize for continuing this off-topic thread.

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