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Re: LSUIElement and LSBackgroundOnly
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Re: LSUIElement and LSBackgroundOnly


  • Subject: Re: LSUIElement and LSBackgroundOnly
  • From: Eric Schlegel <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:00:44 -0700


On Jul 13, 2005, at 11:48 AM, Chad Jones wrote:

I couldn't find anything about incompatibility in the docs.

However, how do I keep the Dock from showing my application's Icon if LSUIElement is not working?

Does this make any sense to anyone?

Are we supposed to use deprecated (NSUIElement) and undocumented (zLSUIElement) keys?


NSUIElement is deprecated. However, I remember clearly from working at Apple (Apple DTS) a few years back that NSUIElement and LSUIElement map to the same thing (at least it did back when I was there and I doubt that would have changed). Though NSUIElement is depreciated (NS stands for next step of course! and LS stands for launch services), they are exactly the same thing for all intents and purposes.

That is still correct. The window server (which owns the relevant bits of the process management code in this case) checks for both NSUIElement and LSUIElement, and if either is set, the app is marked as being a UIElement app. Which one you use does not make any difference.


Last night I believed I remembered having a conversation with Eric Schlegel back when I was working on the Kiosk stuff (technote TN2062) that he said we never had to worry about an application being a UIElement and a Background-Only application at the same time.

That's also correct, since the window server basically does this:

if ( app has LSBackgroundOnly or NSBGOnly keys )
    appIsBGOnly = true;
else if ( app has LSUIElement or NSUIElement keys )
    appIsUIElement = true;

so you can see that appIsBGOnly and appIsUIElement can't both be true at the same time. LSBackgroundOnly or NSBGOnly will override LS/ NSUIElement.

However, now I think I might have been mistaken. I think what the actual conversation was, was that an application should never be a UIElement and a Kiosk application at the same time (something like that).

That's also true. The mode set by SetSystemUIMode only applies when the app is the active app, and UIElement apps generally aren't supposed to become the active app, so using SetSystemUIMode in a UIElement app doesn't make any sense.


Also, as to Stefan's original question he doesn't want his application in the Dock but he's having issues with LSUIElement (bug reports?). Any ideas on this?

No idea. LSUIElement=1 should be enough. If that's not working, it's time for a bug report.


-eric

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