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Re: ScreenSaverView/NSQuickDrawView/Opaque issue [update]
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Re: ScreenSaverView/NSQuickDrawView/Opaque issue [update]


  • Subject: Re: ScreenSaverView/NSQuickDrawView/Opaque issue [update]
  • From: glenn andreas <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:35:31 -0500


On Jun 3, 2005, at 10:14 AM, Andy O'Meara wrote:



Hmm, interesting. The developer part of me is happy that something like
CoreVideo can address my needs, however, the part of me that has to tell my
mac os customers they need to upgrade to tiger is very concerned. I'd have
a lot less of a problem a year from now, but to require it now is a
heartbreaker, especially for something just like a screensaver. So in
summary, thanks for the CoreVideo recommendation--I'll have to get into
that, but I can't require Tiger just yet...



According to the docs:

Mac OS X v10.3 when QuickTime 7.0 or later is installed



So you can just tell people to upgrade to QuickTime 7.0, which seems like a fair compromise (between QT 7.0 and the various updates in 10.3.9 such as WebKit, it's actually surprising how much "Tiger Only" stuff is actually available under 10.3).


That said, thanks for your time and assistance with this. If you or anyone
here has any further insight into the three questions/issues I posed a few
messages ago, that'd be great too.

The best I can offer is "NSQuickDrawView is a temporary transition tool built on top of currently deprecated software and will probably be deprecated itself real soon now". Sorry.



I guess what kills me is that the source to the AppKit classes isn't
publicly available, causing non-cocoa gurus (like me) to be discouraged by
having to play guess-and-check all day (the standard practice for Win32 and
MFC development)--at this point, pretty dispirited with regard Cocoa. Would
Apple stand to lose anything from making the core NS* classes source
publicly available? The answer seems to be no, but perhaps I'm wrong.

Not wanting to start a big OT philosophical debate, yes, it would be nice, but I can understand not releasing the code, since it uses private and undocumented routines (SPIs) which are bound to change from version to version if not go away completely, and if the sources were available, people would use these calls which would cause serious compatibility problems as future versions of the OS are released. There is probably also IP in there that they don't want exposed...



Glenn Andreas email@hidden <http://www.gandreas.com/> wicked fun! quadrium | build, mutate, evolve | images, textures, backgrounds, art

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