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Re: self willChangeValueForKey: @"all keys"???
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Re: self willChangeValueForKey: @"all keys"???


  • Subject: Re: self willChangeValueForKey: @"all keys"???
  • From: glenn andreas <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:02:37 -0600


On Mar 25, 2005, at 5:53 PM, mmalcolm crawford wrote:


On Mar 25, 2005, at 10:26 AM, glenn andreas wrote:
So I've got a class (an ephemeris that calculates all sort of information about sun/moon/planets/etc...) that has a whole bunch of derived values (as in dozens, and probably many more than that later) that change when a single "master" value changes, [...]
As I see it, I can either write a boat load of [self setKeys: [NSArray arrayWithObject: @"master"] triggersChangeNotificationsForDependantKey: @"key1"] during my initialize method, or else do a similar thing in when the master value is set with "willChangeValueForKey:"/"didChangeValueForKey:". Either way, I need to be constantly updating this to make it longer and longer (and when I'm done I could possible have keys in the hundred+ range).
To make things worse, if there are additional categories added with more derived information (so I can add on methods for different sort of astronomical information), so though I separate the object into nice distinct categories of functionality, I constantly have to update the base implementation (which is certainly error prone).
Is there any sort of magic "everything has changed" key?


No, there isn't an "everything changed" key.

I can certainly appreciate that it may be considered tedious or error prone to have to specify the triggersChangeNotificationsForDependantKey: dependencies, however:
As you're toiling though it, you should bear in mind the amount of other code you're *not* writing. Consider what you would have to do to ensure a consistent user interface etc. if you were not using KVO.

You don't need to sell me on KVO - it's pretty much my first answer on how to do something that involves the UI (for better or worse).



If it helps to justify the intellectual endeavour, consider the implementation as business logic. It is code that is essential to write to properly specify the behaviour of your model objects...


The problem is that this class is designed to be extended with additional categories (it may end up a public framework), and obviously if somebody wants to add, say, the phases of the moons of Jupiter, there's no way to get those things added as dependent keys (since you can't safely add +initialize in a category, and there's no +initializeCategory method).


Right now I'm trying the "scan all methods in +initialize for things that might be accessor" (return something, have no parameters, don't start with an underscore), but this won't work if the additional categories are loaded dynamically later. OTOH, scanning for accessors in the master setter may not work as well due to posing (since the class is now something else, and I can't just look in the instance variables, though I could probably try NSClassFromString).


Glenn Andreas                      email@hidden  <http://www.gandreas.com/> oh my! Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to Know

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