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Re: OpenGL and Tiger
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Re: OpenGL and Tiger


  • Subject: Re: OpenGL and Tiger
  • From: Shaun Wexler <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 00:04:35 -0700

On May 15, 2005, at 8:39 PM, Steve Christensen wrote:

A posting to the Carbon list on Friday (5/13) mentioned a change to the HIToolbox that can cause a slowdown (on purpose) if you try to draw faster than the video card's frame rate. This may be related to what you're seeing.

This is the document they refer to (and please note the constant disclaimers for the performance-zapping "feature"):


    http://developer.apple.com/releasenotes/Carbon/HIToolbox.html

If beam synchronization is disabled using Quartz Debug, everything works properly again. I confirmed this with MacFOH, and all windows maintain 75 fps regardless if they're occluded and being composited.

According to the above doc, only apps linked against 10.4 will use the "automatic" beam sync. It is definitely a bug in CGS: all apps are being force-synchronized (regardless of executable link), and unfortunately this feature SUCKS to begin with. Anything forcibly imposed on developers further restricts our ability to provide high- performance without making constant workarounds for these "conveniences". If the API were nicely rolled into CG, NSScreen, etc, then it would be more useful. If this behavior was in fact only enabled by the link version of the executable, I'm in luck, because I can build just the executable with Panther, and everything else with Tiger if necessary, hopefully avoiding this sync issue.

On a good note, using Quartz Debug to turn off beam synchronization globally actually makes Tiger seem fast, like Panther. I'm never turning it back on... ;)
--
Shaun Wexler
MacFOH
http://www.macfoh.com



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