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Re: Working set bloat in Xcode 2
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Re: Working set bloat in Xcode 2


  • Subject: Re: Working set bloat in Xcode 2
  • From: j o a r <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 08:02:14 +0200


On 25 maj 2005, at 04.42, Nicko van Someren wrote:

Despite having 1GB in my laptop it is spending a great deal more time thrashing the disk since moving to 10.4 and I'm wondering if other people on this list have been experiencing the same with their programs.

Are you sure that the disk activity you see are from VM paging? Is it not possible that it's something else, like for example Spotlight indexing? Check paging statistics in top, and use Shark to find out more! As always with performance problems - don't guess, measure! When you guess you're almost always wrong!


When it comes to your applications in particular, and not the behaviour of Tiger in general, I'd suggest that you use top + ObjectAlloc to check your apps on both Panther and Tiger and compare the results. Try to use the same binary (use the Cross Dev SDK) and have a predefined set of actions to be performed, to ensure that you compare apples to apples.

On 25 maj 2005, at 05.47, email@hidden wrote:

To bring this back on topic, however, I'd like the pose the query - has anyone tested their programs to see exactly when autorelease pools are actually released?

I can't remember that we've had any problems with that, I would say that they're released when expected - ie. at the end of every event loop in the case of the default top level autorelease pool that you get automatically in the main thread.


I sometimes wonder about Cocoa apps which use a lot of memory for a task, and then don't seem to release it again (e.g. Safari) until they're quit. I suspect a more liberal use of localised autorelease pools would do wonders. But I've never tested this, since I don't develop programs which are susceptible to such problems. Anyone out there with a large Cocoa app that can shed some [empirical] light on this?

I would not expect autorelease pools to be related to any such problems. Without knowing more about your particular observation, it sounds to me more like the effect of deliberate caching than any sort of leak, and autorelease pools could of course not "fix" that.


j o a r


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