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Re: NSLock locking order;
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Re: NSLock locking order;


  • Subject: Re: NSLock locking order;
  • From: "Matt Budd (Madentec)" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:52:35 -0700

In my last message I forgot to thank John for his reply too..sorry bout that John. I reread the replies and it got me thinking about implementing a FIFO lock myself so I know the order that the lock gets acquired by waiting threads.

I've taken a stab at a FIFOLock class...do you think you could take a look a see if there would be any issues with this? It's a bit hard to test, since it seems that the default lock/thread scheduler does a good enough job that I probably won't encounter any errors, but I think that this FIFO lock will guarantee that (if there are no bugs in it).

Anyway, any feedback you have would be appreciated. Thanks all!

 - Matt

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On Nov 10, 2005, at 2:18 PM, Matt Budd (Madentec) wrote:

Thanks Joseph and Shawn for the replies. I guess it comes down to the fact that there is no inherent order, but it probably does a decent job of assigning locks fairly.

Perhaps expanding on my exact situation might help. I have since realized I don't need 3 threads, but instead have 2 threads (the main thread and a worker thread). The worker thread loops through an array of numbers and adds a certain amount to those number depending on the direction. The main thread either changes the direction for each of those numbers or adds more numbers (with an initial direction) to the array. But basically, I don't want the worker thread to add to the numbers if I am changing the direction or adding numbers. Here's some more detailed psuedo-code (typed in Mail so don't mind any typos):


- (void)handleWorkerThread: (id)poPassedObject
{
NSAutoreleasePool *loThreadPool = [[NSAutoreleasePool alloc] init];


while (YES) {
NSAutoreleasePool *loLoopPool = [[NSAutoreleasePool alloc] init];


[_oAllowedToAccumulate lock];
NSEnumerator *loNumberIterator = [_aoNumbers objectEnumerator];
NSMutableDictionary *lyNumber;
while ((lyNumber = [loNumberIterator nextObject]) != nil) {
[lyNumber setValue:
[NSNumber numberWithInt: (
[[lyNumber valueForKey: @"number"] intValue]
+ [[lyNumber valueForKey: @"direction"] intValue]
)
]
forKey: @"number"
];
}
[_oAllowedToAccumulate unlock];


[NSThread sleepUntilDate: [NSDate dateWithTimeIntervalFromNow: 0.05]];
[loLoopPool release];
}


    [loThreadPool release];
}

- (void)setDirection: (int)piDirection forNumber: (int)piIndex
{
    //This is called on the main thread

    [_oAllowedToAccumulate lock];

NSMutableDictionary *lyNumber = [_aoNumbers objectAtIndex: piIndex];
[lyNumber setValue: [NSNumber numberWithInt: piDirection] forKey: @"direction"];


    [_oAllowedToAccumulate unlock];
}

- (void)addNumber: (int)piNumber
{
    //This is called on the main thread

    [_oAllowedToAccumulate lock];

[_aoNumbers addObject: [NSMutableDictionary dictionaryWithObjectsAndKeys:
[NSNumber numberWithInt: piNumber],
@"number",
[NSNumber numberWithInt: +1],
@"direction",
nil
]
];


    [_oAllowedToAccumulate unlock];
}


The problem is that if I call -setDirection:forNumber: or - addNumber: from the mail thread, it might block if the worker thread is busy accumulating. And at that point, I know that there is a state change (either a direction or cardinality change), so I want the accumulator to block the next time it goes to acquire the lock. But this code doesn't guarantee this...it is possible here for the main thread to block in either of the latter two methods, and then the worker thread gets swapped in and re-locks the lock before the main thread can.


Any suggestions? I can't use conditional locks, because I end up with the same scenario...in the main thread I'd have to lock it first to unlock it with a condition and then in the worker thread I'd have to lock when the condition was "no state change pending". But then if I did get that lock in the worker thread, the main thread would block before it could lock it to unlock it with the condition "state change is pending", so it would be possible for the same scenario...

 - Matt


On Nov 10, 2005, at 1:15 PM, Joseph Kelly wrote:

NSLock is based on pthreads, whose docs often mention the fact that there are no guarantees as to which thread will acquire a lock. If you need to synchronize your threads, then NSConditionLock is your new friend:

Main Thread:
[_oLock initWithCondition:THREAD_A_WORK];
...

Thread A:
[_oLock lockWhenCondition:THREAD_A_WORK];
...
[_oLock unlockWithCondition:THREAD_B_WORK];

Thread B:
[_oLock lockWhenCondition:THREAD_B_WORK];
...
[_oLock unlockWithCondition:THREAD_C_WORK];

Thread C:
[_oLock lockWhenCondition:THREAD_C_WORK];
...
[_oLock unlockWithCondition:THREAD_A_WORK];


On Nov 10, 2005, at 10:37 AM, Matt Budd (Madentec) wrote:

Hello all,

Say I have three threads competing for the same NSLock. Here's some small psuedo code:

Thread A, B, and C (just with different "<stuff>")
--------------------------------------------------------------
while (YES) {
[_oLock lock];
<stuff>
[_oLock unlock];
[NSThread sleepUntilDate: [NSDate dateWithTimeIntervalSinceNow: 0.5]];
}


So lets say thread A got the the lock first, and then then got swapped out while doing "<stuff>". Then thread B blocks attempting to acquire the lock. Then thread C runs and also blocks attempting to acquire the lock. Then we get back to thread A and it finishes its "<stuff>", unlocks the _oLock, and sleeps for half a second.

Is there any order to who will get to acquire the lock next? Does thread B get it because it is queued up somewhere in the foundation's NSLock class that it is first? Or is there a possibility that thread A might finish its sleep and loop around and obtain the lock again? Or does thread C have a chance?

Thanks for any info...
 - Matt

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