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Re: Is Apple's singleton sample code correct?
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Re: Is Apple's singleton sample code correct?


  • Subject: Re: Is Apple's singleton sample code correct?
  • From: Serge Cohen <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:11:22 +0100

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Le 29 nov. 05 à 10:17, Ondra Cada a écrit :

David,


No you don't. Correct client would first alloc/init the singleton, then release it. Unless someone other did the same, and unless we did some trick singleton-level (be it reimplementation of retain/ release/dealloc or overretaining or whatever), the singleton goes poof. That's *not* what we wanted: we want it to survive infinitely (or at the very least till app is about to quit).



Well indeed all the singleton class from the Cocoa framework I ever used are supposed to be accessed through the +shared... method. It is clearly stated in the documentation (ie. http://developer.apple.com/ documentation/Cocoa/Reference/ApplicationKit/ObjC_classic/Classes/ NSApplication_index.html first paragraph of the class description)


So the implicit rule is that a singleton class is NOT alloc/init by it's user, but accessed through a class method with a name starting by shared...

Some user night not properly read documentation (or doc. might be unclear) and not explain that a class is meant to be singleton, in which case some one will wrongly use alloc/init ... in this case you're helping the user by triggering an exception or something equivalent to let the developer realise he made a mistake, but please don't break-down/replace the meaning of the these methods.


(The most obvious example is a forgotten (auto)release: that is a violation of the memory management rules all right, but the application runs without a glitch; it leaks memory a bit, but unless the object in question is big or tooo many of them and/or the app runs for a long long time, nobody ever notices.)


Indeed this is not nice at all, neither is a 'one too many' auto- release which hardly gets discovered : this is a feature which make the all coding an harder process because cause is far (in time) with its consequence. I'd love to see a way to ''enforce' the policy of auto-release .


Back to business: making the class to adhere to memory management rules means exactly this:

** if the client follows the rules, the class does exactly what we want it to do **

The client here should follow the rule of knowingly use a singleton class, hence don't call the alloc/init, but use tha class shared...
method (this is the implicit rule set by the Cocoa framework API).


There is nothing wrong about _using_ object deallocation to do the app-quit cleanup.

There's all wrong with it. I did it, long ago. I've learnt the hard way.



Can you be more precise on this one? (avoiding us to learn the hard way).



Serge.

PS: I just realised I'd much better have let the thread die ... re- reading this message I have the feeling it only repeat what was already there... except the last question ... what's wrong with using dealloc for cleanup of singleton???


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