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Re: Cocoa for small applications
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Re: Cocoa for small applications


  • Subject: Re: Cocoa for small applications
  • From: Scott Ellsworth <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 11:18:28 -0700


On Sep 14, 2005, at 7:07 AM, Thomas Engelmeier wrote:

At 14:40 Uhr +0100 14.09.2005, Finlay Dobbie wrote:


> >provided at the language layer, and they work like a dream. Since

 >EOF left, Cocoa lacks this support.

 So what? Fire up an Java Database layer either by JNI invocation
 (some pain) or the Cocoa<->Java bridge (easy, but deprecated).


Yes, but clearly this is painful and a bit of a regression.


For someone who is already fluent in the underlying APIs? Clearly an "too small userbase to be actively maintained" partial encapsulation API would be an regression.

A major benefit of Hibernate is how it insulates you from the underlying datastore. Oracle, MySql, major schema changes, all just flow by without harm. This is something that a hand-rolled API is going to have trouble matching, unless a lot of time is poured into it. For a single developer, it is a marginal case, while for Apple, it makes a bit more sense - all of their developers would benefit.


I sincerely doubt that the user base would be all that small. At my clients, at least, Cocoa is a complete non starter for their life science apps, because they cannot easily get to the databases from Cocoa.

EOF or Core Data both offer a different abstraction, but one that fits pretty naturally into the Cocoa design scheme. We already generate WO models from our schema, so WebObjects app Just Work - I would do the same with Core Data were it a multi-user access kit.

Scott
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