Re: Pop up window ala msn messenger
Re: Pop up window ala msn messenger
- Subject: Re: Pop up window ala msn messenger
- From: John Stiles <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 18:22:01 -0700
I think there would be a lot of merit to a "Growl Lite" that a
developer could integrate into their app by adding a single .m/.cpp
file. It would make things simpler for some developers, keep app
footprints down, and reduce complexity. (Frameworks contain stuff
like soft links which tend to break when you put them on a Windows
file system. This may not matter for most developers, but it does
affect our build process/pipeline.) How it's implemented--via
AppleEvents or something else--doesn't matter that much to me.
Technically, AppleEvents certainly allow for reply events, so a
clickback wouldn't be impossible either.
Unfortunately, I don't have the time/energy to contribute this kind
of stuff to Growl myself. I would really like to, but my schedule is
just too full already :|
On Apr 6, 2006, at 6:13 PM, Christopher Forsythe wrote:
Unfortunately we tried it the other way around (installing a
framework into the system) but that caused everyone major
headaches. Weak Linking a framework is not very well documented,
and is easy to really mess up, thus crashing the app altogether if
the user doesn't have it installed. (probably partly our fault at
the time for the docs part, but still)
The pros of shipping a framework that the app needs to include
greatly outweighed the cons for many other reasons. When I
originally announced Growl on this very list years ago, at least 2
developers replied back complaining that it was a pkg installer.
The applescript solution works, but isn't the best idea to use. The
framework gives you some advanced stuff like allowing a clickback
(I forget what we really call it) to be sent to the application
notifying.
This is perhaps the third complaint I've seen regarding the
framework needing to be required. To be honest, I think it's a
negligible expense to gain greater flexibility. 140k isn't a lot,
even on dialup. I also think it'd be a good discussion in itself
for the mailing list (pros versus cons of requiring this method).
Chris Forsythe
Growl Project Lead
On Mar 30, 2006, at 11:29 AM, John Stiles wrote:
My first reaction was: "I have to add a 140K framework to my app?
Forget it."
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