Re: Cocoa Books
Re: Cocoa Books
- Subject: Re: Cocoa Books
- From: Ondra Cada <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 02:07:30 +0200
Jonathan,
On 11.4.2006, at 1:19, Jonathan wrote:
So here’s my point. C really isn’t used in Cocoa and you only
need the
concepts, so you probably shouldn’t learn C. But if you don’t
learn C, you
can’t learn Cocoa, because it assumes a knowledge of C.
Oh... perhaps my comments were not clear enough:
C is *the very foundation* of ObjC, and thus also *the very
foundation* of Cocoa.
Though,
(a) there is a bunch of plain C features you don't know too often,
and thus it is best to skip them until you are comfortable with those
important ones. Excellent examples (of things you don't need to know
for awhile) are bit fields, unions, pointer arithmetic.
(b) along with C itself, its standard libraries are normally taught
(those functions like "printf", "scanf", "strcpy", ...). Of them you
need exactly *none* (for starters, later you may find one or two
useful in some specific situations).
To me, there have got to be a bunch of folks here who could
competently
write a great “Cocoa For Dummies” book in a flash, which would
include the
Objective-C we need, as well as the step by step Cocoa instruction
at the
same time, help all of us stupid, inexperienced n00b’s get into
the most
exciting set of tools for Mac (I’m very excited...), help the Mac
community,
do good for all us Mac users by broadening the accessibility of our
tools to
a wider audience
There definitely is a bunch of such. Me perhaps one of them.
— and maybe make a hell of a lot of money, just as a bonus
for being so nice.
In fact, just an email book proposal to O’ Reilly or some other such
Publisher, might even finance the whole endeavor.
Have tried coupla years ago. Did not work. First they said they like
the proposed design and they will issue the book gladly; then they
just plain stopped responding at all :(((
---
Ondra Čada
OCSoftware: email@hidden http://www.ocs.cz
private email@hidden http://www.ocs.cz/oc
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