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Re: Cocoa Books


  • Subject: Re: Cocoa Books
  • From: Milton Sagen <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 17:52:54 -0700

Have you looked at O'Reilly's Cocoa in a Nutshell? Its been awhile since I looked at it (got a free copy at WWDC 2003), and I've never really cared for the "Nutshell" books but maybe it'll work for you.

Milt

On Apr 10, 2006, at 16:19, Jonathan wrote:

Hi--

So I went to O’Reilly and got the online version of Hillegass.

Here’s from his introduction:

“This book is written for programmers who already know some C programming
and something about objects”.


A bit later:

“Objective-C is a simple and elegant extension to C, and mastering it will
take about two hours -- if you already know C and an object-oriented
language like Java or C++”.


And from Chapter One, no less:

“What is an object? An object is like a C struct ...”.

At this point, I realized I would indeed need to go back to my beginner’s C
tome.


So here’s my point. C really isn’t used in Cocoa and you only need the
concepts, so you probably shouldn’t learn C. But if you don’t learn C, you
can’t learn Cocoa, because it assumes a knowledge of C.


Huh?

To me, there have got to be a bunch of folks here who could competently
write a great “Cocoa For Dummies” book in a flash, which would include the
Objective-C we need, as well as the step by step Cocoa instruction at the
same time, help all of us stupid, inexperienced n00b’s get into the most
exciting set of tools for Mac (I’m very excited...), help the Mac community,
do good for all us Mac users by broadening the accessibility of our tools to
a wider audience — and maybe make a hell of a lot of money, just as a bonus
for being so nice.


In fact, just an email book proposal to O’ Reilly or some other such
Publisher, might even finance the whole endeavor.

Just my two cents, and we all know what two cents is worth these days, after
all.


Best,
Jonathan
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