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Re: Cocoa Books


  • Subject: Re: Cocoa Books
  • From: John Bishop <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:23:47 -0500

James Andrews <email@hidden> said:

>On Apr 17, 2006, at 5:27 PM, Phil Faber wrote:
>> ...or is it just me?!
>
>No it's not just you.  I've gotten to a point where I am at a
>plateau.  I want to do things that use NSOutlineView.  All the
>tutorials that teach bindings teach it using NSTableView.  The
>examples that come with the Development tools are designed for people
>who already understand Cocoa/Obj-C.

Nonsense.  Buck up and read the documentation and the sample code - and start
with the Cocoa/Objective-C intro documentation or a decent text (Hillegass and
Cheeseman were my favorites - I still refer to them).  If anyone could do
this, then I suppose anyone could do this!  Yes, it's perfectly reasonable
that you have some basic Cocoa and Objective-C onboard to understand some of
this stuff - but you have to be willing to read, search, experiment, try,
fail, try, fail, etc.  My experience is that you'll get little sympathy on
this list unless you do at least that much.

Specific to your complaint about the dearth of NSOutlineView examples, there
are at least two right on your hard drive:

/Developer/Examples/AppKit/OutlineView
/Developer/Examples/AppKit/DragNDropOutlineView

And even more specific to your complaints about bindings samples being
specific to NSTableView rather than NSOutlineView...  A NSOutlineView IS a
NSTableView, so just about anything you learn about the latter applies to the
former.  From my VERY cursory review, it appears that there's only one
substantive difference in the bindings for the two - the binding that
designates selected items (selectionIndexes vs. selectionIndexPaths), as you'd
probably expect.
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