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Re: sort descriptor optimization
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Re: sort descriptor optimization


  • Subject: Re: sort descriptor optimization
  • From: "Adam R. Maxwell" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 17:16:18 -0700


On Jul 4, 2006, at 16:44, Matt Neuburg wrote:

On or about 7/4/06 3:43 PM, thus spake "Adam R. Maxwell" <email@hidden>:

But you're doing this in such an odd way. Why are you subclassing
NSSortDescriptor at all? NSSortDescriptor itself tells you how it
wants you
to deal with this sort of situation; as it stands, it can be
initialized
with a comparison method selector. So, for example, if your
comparands are
NSStrings, you could implement a special comparator (via a category on
NSString) and use it in your NSSortDescriptor. Do you see the same
sort of
slowdown using that architecture?

We considered that. However, our users want nil values and empty strings to sort last in an a-z ordered list, instead of first, for all objects. Implementing this in NSSortDescriptor was also less code, and doesn't require adding a special category on every object that we sort.

I don't see that. You could make this a category on NSObject and put your
"less code" into one method that would probably look very much like the
method you're using now.

Possible, but I'm still not sure nil would be handled as we desire (I've forgotten the details, but there was a reason we did it this way). Also, the existing code has been debugged, and it's working well, if slowly.


As for some of your comparands being nil values, the obvious
suggestion is,
Don't Do That. m.

Thanks, but that is not an option. We need valueForKey: to return nil when there is no value for that key.

You can say you don't feel like doing it, but to say it's not an option is a
bit strong, since this is exactly the sort of thing NSNull is for - an
object that functions as a marker for nil-ness. For example, in talking to a
MySQL database I have wanted to distinguish between a result that is an
empty string and a lack of result - and the difference between @"" and
[NSNull null] has solved the problem perfectly.

We have user-defined keys, and not all of them are in a dictionary at any given time (and vary otherwise as well). As I said, this is not an option, and it's deeply ingrained in code that's several years old. Although I'm not interested in rewriting our object model to use NSNull, your suggestion is useful to someone starting from scratch.


I'm just suggesting that once you've got nothing but objects, they can
compare themselves to one another and be displayed through the interface in
any manner you desire. And then you'd be doing things in the way that an
NSSortDescriptor expects, according to the docs. I don't know that this
would be faster, but at least you wouldn't be doing something unusual and
then complaining that it doesn't work.

Since when is subclassing unusual? If NSSortDescriptor is supposed to be opaque, then compareObject:toObject: should have been a private method.


I'm not "complaining that it doesn't work," since it does work. As my subject indicates, I'm asking a question about optimizing code, so let's just suppose that I have a valid reason to do this. Apple appears to be doing some interesting tricks with NSArray sorts when using NSSortDescriptor, and I think it's reasonable that they apply some optimization to using a subclass (maybe IMP caching of compareObject:toObject:).

Still another possibility, of course, might be not to use an
NSSortDescriptor at all. For example, if your container is an array, there's
NSArray's sortedArrayUsingFunction. That could be way faster, because the
overhead of method calls goes away. I've got quite a lot of code that works
that way, left over from the dark days before we had NSSortDescriptors at
all, and we had to keep track of the user's layers of sorting demands
ourselves (not to mention keeping the roads clean with our tongues). m.

Yeah, I know; we were using sortUsingFunction:context: until we dropped Jaguar support. The main reason we switched to NSSortDescriptors is that we can subsort using an array of descriptors. Since we support arbitrary user-configurable table columns, our sorting code has always been a bit hairy.


-- Adam
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