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Re: BigNerdRanch Cocoa Bootcamp


  • Subject: Re: BigNerdRanch Cocoa Bootcamp
  • From: ChrisB <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 17:43:32 -0700

I have been given the opportunity to attend my choice of the Cocoa Bootcamp in August, or the WWDC. Being new to Cocoa and Mac development in general I would like a bit of input on which would be more useful. My background is with PHP and Perl, but have made good inroads with Cocoa in the last few months of working through a few projects. Work will foot the bill on this one, but I want to know where the best use of the resources may be. WWDC has lots of small sessions that look very interesting, but without the schedule yet it hard to know and plan what I can and can't expect to hit. I figure you all here would be the ones to know.

Thanks,
Chris



On May 16, 2006, at 3:33 PM, David Hoerl wrote:

Trygve ,

I went on my own ticket, and I was out of work at the time!.

Here's the deal. if you want to get up to speed fast, and want to get a really good foundation, then do it. You can plunk around a lot on your own, learning a bit at a time and slowly getting the picture, but after an intensive week at hte camp, I went I started going gangbusters on my application, and after 3 months got a full time job doing Cocoa/CLI work (through their students listserver).

Before I went I printed out and read (and re-read) Apple's Objective-C manual (what a great document!) and I got the Kocher book too for reference (use it occasionally). [The Kocher book is good since provides instruction on doing CLI Obj-C programs, something I could find no online instructions for.]

After the week you will "get it" for the most part. You can also then post "stupid" questions on the students web site without getting flamed, and you will often get a personal response from Aaron or one of the other instructors.

BTW, the other instructors are **really** knowledgeable on Cocoa - you will not believe how fast they will type a solution onto your Mac when you get help during class.

Again, if you make the decision to jump in the pool, this is the way to do it. Do as Aaron says - work hard, then get a good nights sleep. Don't fight the class - go with what you are told, which often means proceeding before you completely understand the last exercise. Trust me, it will all fall together in the end.

I had years of C experience on the old Mac, but it didn't help me all that much get going with Cocoa. This class will push you over the "hump" in a week, and from then on you will be capable of going on your own.


David
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