Re: show and hide NSWindow
Re: show and hide NSWindow
- Subject: Re: show and hide NSWindow
- From: "Gurmit Teotia" <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 12:46:39 +0530
I got it. I appreciate the thoughful responses from all of you guys.
Thanks,
Gurmit
On 5/4/06, Mike Abdullah <email@hidden> wrote:
The reason could be interpreted as that. The logic is probably
simply that no-one (well no-one within the Cocoa team) has ever
wanted to do this, so the API has never been written. But still,
from a UI perspective its a very bad idea, and so shouldn't every be
attempted.
Mike.
On 4 May 2006, at 16:20PM0, Gurmit Teotia wrote:
> Thanks for brilliant explaination. I'll relook at my application
> behaviour.
> Shawn, I'd appreciate if you can also tell me if Cocoa intentially
> does not
> give any such API to achieve that behaviour because of GUI design
> priniciples?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Gurmit
>
> On 5/3/06, Shawn Erickson <email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> On 5/2/06, Gurmit Teotia <email@hidden> wrote:
>> > I want to display these windows in dock bar(minimized state)
>> instead of
>> > directly poping up on screen while displaying them first time.
>> Later on
>> user
>> > can maximize these windows from dock bar as per his/her
>> convinience.
>>
>> Using the dock in that way isn't good UI... the dock is meant to
>> contain things that the user put their either by drag and drop
>> (yeah I
>> know some installers like to pollute it), by launching an
>> application,
>> or by minimizing windows themselves.
>>
>> How would a user know to look in the dock for these other windows if
>> they themselves didn't minimize them? Don't forget that some folks
>> have the dock hidden and would never see these minimized windows
>> appear.
>>
>> The API provided allows you minimize things as if the user did it
>> themselves but it generally incurs the expected animation which is an
>> important part of the minimize feature (it give a visual cue that
>> something was minimized and to what general location).
>>
>> It seems like it makes more sense to me to provide toolbar buttons,
>> menu items, etc. to show these auxiliary windows (not knowing exactly
>> what you your application looks like or does). For example Activity
>> Monitory.app has menu items on the Window menu that brings up the
>> various windows it supports.
>>
>> -Shawn
>>
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