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Re: Cocoa-dev Digest, Vol 4, Issue 1137
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Re: Cocoa-dev Digest, Vol 4, Issue 1137


  • Subject: Re: Cocoa-dev Digest, Vol 4, Issue 1137
  • From: Army Research Lab <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:06:12 -0500
  • Thread-topic: Cocoa-dev Digest, Vol 4, Issue 1137

> I'm a professor at University of Montreal in Canada, and my lab does a
> fair bit of Cocoa programming for analysis of MRI data.
>
> It's become clear that there is much less opportunity for learning Obj-
> C & Cocoa in most universities than - say - learning Java and C++.
> Currently our comp-sci department offers courses in the following
> programming languages:  C, C++, Java, VB, C#.  McGill University
> offers courses in C, C++, Scheme, and Java.  Concordia University
> offers courses in C++ and Java, and lists required software for its
> courses as Eclipse, .NET, Visual Studio, etc.
>
> I'm in the early stages of evaluating whether a course on Cocoa and
> Objective-C would be feasible at my institution, and was wondering
> what's already out there - specifically:
>
> - has anyone taken any kind of secondary (high-school) or post-
> secondary (i.e. undergrad/bachelors) course in Cocoa programming?
>
> - has anyone taken a course on Objective-C that was not specifically
> about Cocoa?
>
> - has anyone heard of such a course anywhere?
>
> I am particularly interested in whether any such courses exist in the
> Montreal area, but of course would also like to hear about them
> anywhere.  Any feedback on the experience (was it useful, was it well
> attended, how did it come about, what department offered it) would be
> greatly appreciated.  I'm kind of worried that if I suggest it to our
> comp-sci department, they'll laugh me out of the room.
>
> I know there are plenty of ways to learn Cocoa and that most of us on
> this list just learned it ourselves.  However as the Apple platform
> grows in market share, it seems like less of a crazy idea that a
> university course on developing under this platform should at least be
> an option.  As far as I can tell there is almost a complete vacuum in
> Montreal.

Have you looked at what the Big Nerd Ranch provides?

http://www.bignerdranch.com/classes/cocoa_combined.shtml

I haven't taken any of their courses, but "Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X"
has got to be one of my all-time favorite books, and the author, Aaron
Hillegass, is one of the instructors at the Big Nerd Ranch.  Instead of
creating a class on your own, you may be able to talk them into teaching a
course.

Good luck,
Cem Karan

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