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Re: core data app questions - help!


  • Subject: Re: core data app questions - help!
  • From: mmalc crawford <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 21:33:59 -0700


On Sep 9, 2007, at 7:28 PM, Jacob Scheckman wrote:

I do appreciate mmalc's suggestion to start from the beginning and develop an in depth background knowledge of cocoa, etc. I also understand that not doing this will cause me to struggle, such as I am with my "wish list". That said, as I said above, its not really what I'm interested in. I guess you could say I want to develop a functional knowledge of writing these programs, not an academic one. But I'm sure, if this were a topic which I have a more academic interest, I would have given the same advice that mmalc gave me, so thank you for the advice.

It's not quite clear why regard the advice as "academic", it's extremely *practical* and based on years of watching people struggling with Cocoa because they haven't yet learned the basics. What you're saying is akin to, "I just want to translate The Iliad, so I don't really need to learn about declensions, conjugations, tenses, or voices first".

Others have made the same point numerous times, but Erik happens to have it on a couple of occasions recently that I remember (once apropos of documentation, but the premise is the same): <http://www.cocoabuilder.com/archive/message/cocoa/2007/8/31/188545 > and <http://www.cocoabuilder.com/archive/message/cocoa/2007/8/20/188026 >.

In the end, I. Savant's response was really the kind of response I was hoping for in the beginning. I have yet to implement these ideas, but I think they will be do-able.

Being able to effectively and efficiently use I.S.'s suggestions will depend upon more than just a superficial understanding of Cocoa and its idioms. Again, I strongly encourage you to start with simpler examples and build on those. If you choose not to do this, I would also ask that you don't post questions to the list about the more complex technologies if you find them to be confusing -- it's simply not fair on the membership.

mmalc

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