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Re: Questions for a new mac developer...


  • Subject: Re: Questions for a new mac developer...
  • From: "Kevin White" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:38:30 -0600

Thank you Scott, and to everyone else, for the great answers!  I'll be
reading links and re-working some design a bit over the next while and hope
to get some prototyping done soon.

Thanks again!

Kevin

On 9/12/07, Scott Thompson <email@hidden> wrote:
>
>
> On Sep 11, 2007, at 4:27 PM, Kevin White wrote:
> > 1- I have a design where I'd like to have "tabbed" views.  Similar to
> > firefox browser tabs.  Is this a standard cocoa component for me to
> > use?
> > The NSTabbedView seems to be using a sectioned control rather than
> > traditional tabs.  What should I use if I want a tabbed look?
>
> On the surface, this sounds like an ill-conceived design choice. If
> you implement your own look and feel then your application will  not
> benefit from the advantages that a common user interface brings to the
> table.
>
> Nothing will kill your application faster in the Macintosh market than
> if it looks like a poorly ported Windows app.
>
> > 2- I have another view where I'd like an iTunes-like appearance.  If
> > you use
> > the television shows area of your itunes library, you'll see show
> > icons
> > (with details under the icon) down the side, and a list of episodes
> > for each
> > show.  So it's one big scroll view, sectioned off for the various
> > categories, and items for each category.  I'd like to achieve a
> > similar look
> > but have not the foggiest clue of where to begin to get a view like
> > this.
>
> You probably want to use an NSTableView with a custom NSCell subclass.
>
> > 3- I have yet another view to program where it needs to be a
> > scrolling view
> > and several detail boxes down the scrolling view.  For example,
> > let's say I
> > have 15 items to display, each with a fairly lengthy text note.  I'd
> > like
> > the items to be displayed one after another (with their notes) in a
> > scrolling view.  Each item should appear to be in its own box.  To
> > top it
> > off, I'd like to get a custom-rendered background for this view.
>
> This also sound like you could use an NSTableView with a custom NSCell
> subclass.
>
> > 4- I currently plan to store app data in xml files.  Yet the mac "way"
> > appears to be more with bindings, controllers, and related data
> > sets.  How
> > can I use bindings, controllers, and other similar mac technologies
> > properly
> > and yet keep my data in xml formats?
>
> Core Data allows you to save your information in XML format.  However,
> I suspect that what you want is to use your own XML schema. In that
> case, there is nothing to keep you from following the Model-View-
> Controller paradigm.  Your model simply needs to know how to serialize
> and un-serialize itself from your XML representation.  Cocoa provides
> NSXML for this.  Our application uses Xerces.
>
> > I know that leopard is coming out soon, and with it some new developer
> > technologies and tools.  I don't know how that will change things
> > for me,
> > and I understand that apple doesn't want you talking too much about
> > those
> > yet.  But if appropriate, and you're allowed to, you can just say
> > "wait for
> > leopard" on certain topics, and I'll just wait for that. :)
>
> One thing you might want to wait on is the Collection view.
>
> > Yes, these are some big questions.  If you can link me to recommended
> > tutorials that would explain the concepts for these questions, or
> > answer
> > them, or provide doc reference links, or whatever, I'd appreciate
> > it. :)
>
>
> http://developer.apple.com/referencelibrary/GettingStarted/GS_Cocoa/index.html
>
> http://andymatuschak.org/articles/2007/09/09/getting-started-with-cocoa-a-friendlier-approach/
> http://www.amazon.com/Cocoa-Programming-Mac-OS-2nd/dp/0321213149
>
> http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/CocoaFundamentals/CocoaDesignPatterns/chapter_5_section_4.html
>
>
> http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/TableView/index.html
>
> http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/ControlCell/index.html
>
>
> http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/NSXML_Concepts/index.html
>
> http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/XMLParsing/index.html
>
>


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Kevin White
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