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Re: creating classes on the fly ??
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Re: creating classes on the fly ??


  • Subject: Re: creating classes on the fly ??
  • From: Bill Bumgarner <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:27:49 -0700

On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Scott Thompson wrote:
On Sep 26, 2007, at 12:50 PM, Daniel Child wrote:
Sorry for basic questions, but I've never looked into using an alternate language like Python. Would I be able to make C-language Carbon calls as well, all from within the same project?
Just speculating here, never having done it myself, but tools like PyObjc, in spite of having Objective-C in the name, allow you to communicate with application frameworks on Mac OS X through Python. Those same frameworks contain C routines as part of their interfaces so it makes sense that (through some mechanism) you should be able to call arbitrary C routines from Python.

If you can wait until Leopard ships, Leopard includes the BridgeSupport stuff and a version of PyObjC that fully embraces BridgeSupport. This will also be migrated back to the public Subversion repository and should not be terribly hard to retarget to Tiger. (Note also that Leopard includes Objective-C 2.0 which, as its name implies, is a vast step forward over previous versions. As the name implies, the underpinnings have changed, including the runtime's API. It is much much better, but the details are still covered under NDA.)


RubyCocoa for Tiger uses BridgeSupport now.

With BridgeSupport, it makes it quite easy for something like RubyCocoa or PyObjC to call into most API on the system, not just Objective-C and without requiring hand written wrapper functions.

HOWEVER, getting back to the original posters question, I don't think that using either Ruby or Python to gain dynamic class generation is really going to be that terribly useful. From my rather ignorant position of only casually following this thread, I'm not sure that dynamic class generation is an appropriate solution. It could be done, but I don't see an advantage over creating a set of classes that effectively model whatever it is you are trying to model. That can be quite dynamic and creating generic, dynamic, containers can vastly simplify lots of things (archival, for example). This is exactly what CoreData does with NSManagedObject and entities -- you don't need to subclass NSManagedObject to store a particular entity.

b.bum



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 >creating classes on the fly ?? (From: Daniel Child <email@hidden>)
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 >Re: creating classes on the fly ?? (From: Daniel Child <email@hidden>)
 >Re: creating classes on the fly ?? (From: Thomas Engelmeier <email@hidden>)
 >Re: creating classes on the fly ?? (From: "Stefan Arentz" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: creating classes on the fly ?? (From: Daniel Child <email@hidden>)
 >Re: creating classes on the fly ?? (From: Daniel Child <email@hidden>)
 >Re: creating classes on the fly ?? (From: Scott Thompson <email@hidden>)

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