Re: Capsule-Style Toolbar Controls
Re: Capsule-Style Toolbar Controls
- Subject: Re: Capsule-Style Toolbar Controls
- From: Peter Ammon <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:04:55 -0700
Yes, in Leopard, unified and non-unified windows are the same except
for some minor differences in the toolbar metrics, which you
found. :) The metric differences were left in for compatibility.
I don't think the HIG has any guidance about when to use one or the
other on Leopard, so I suppose you can use whichever you think looks
best for your app.
-Peter
On Apr 18, 2008, at 3:22 PM, Stefan Hafeneger wrote:
Hi Peter,
Thanks for your reply. You are right. Since the WWDC Beta I haven't
touched the unified checkbox because I thought that there is no
difference because the design is always unified. I also didn't find
something in the HIG about that. So when should we activate this
checkbox? Is the difference just the 2px?
With best wishes, Stefan
Am 18.04.2008 um 23:05 schrieb Peter Ammon:
Thanks Stefan,
From the screenshot, it looks to me like the test app is not using
the unified title/toolbar metrics, but Mail is. Try checking the
unified title/toolbar checkbox in IB.
Your understanding of the NSToolbarItemGroup is correct. However,
the view will not be automatically resized to fit the labels. For
now, you will have to size the segments manually.
-Peter
On Apr 17, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Stefan Hafeneger wrote:
Hi Peter,
I uploaded two screenshots from Mail (in the background) and a
demo app (in the foreground) designed just in Interface Builder.
The size of the segmented control is exactly the same but there is
a difference in the baseline.
http://homepage.mac.com/stefan.hafeneger/.cv/stefan.hafeneger/Sites/.Public/CapsuleToolbar1.png-zip.zip
http://homepage.mac.com/stefan.hafeneger/.cv/stefan.hafeneger/Sites/.Public/CapsuleToolbar2.png-zip.zip
Concerning NSToolbarItemGroup: So I create a NSToolbarItemGroup
and with three "dummy" items and label the three dummy items. Then
I create a segmented control cell with 3 segments and set it to
the view of NSToolbarItemGroup. Is this correct? Will the view
then be automatically resized if the user enables or disables the
labels?
With best wishes, Stefan
Am 16.04.2008 um 23:29 schrieb Peter Ammon:
On Apr 16, 2008, at 1:27 PM, Stefan Hafeneger wrote:
Hi,
Has anyone tried to use the Capsule-Style Toolbar Controls in an
app so that it looks and behaves like Mail or Preview? When I
add them to my toolbar it looks like Mail. But if I compare them
side by side the ones in Mail and Preview there is a 2 pixel
difference of the baseline. And I think it looks better in Mail/
Preview. When I add a multi-segment control I only have one
Label (not two or more). In Mail and Preview it looks like there
are as many labels as segments. You can "fake" this by adding
blanks. But there is one more point: In Mail and Preview the
size of the control is adjusted (I think depending on the size
of the label(s)). Well, in the nib files from Mail and Preview
there are no toolbars, so Apple builds them via code. So the
question is: If I code them as well, is it possible to do the
same that Apple does in Mail and Preview via NSSegmentedCell or
is this all done by hand?
With best wishes, Stefan
Hi Stefan,
As of Leopard, this is all possible using standard AppKit
controls, which Mail and Preview both use.
Regarding the two pixel difference in the baseline, this may be
because the segmented control is too short and so is clipped.
Try using sizeToFit. You may also be referring to different
window metrics; try giving the window a unified title/toolbar to
see if that gives the appearance you expect. It shouldn't affect
the appearance much, but it does subtly change the toolbar
positioning. If these don't fix your issue, maybe you can
provide a screenshot so I understand what you mean.
To have multiple labels in a single toolbar item, make an
NSToolbarItemGroup, and give it subitems. If you set a view (but
not a label) on the Group, the labels of the subitems will be
arranged under the view. If the view is a segmented control, the
labels will be aligned with corresponding segments, assuming
there's the same number of both. This is what Mail and Preview do.
I hope that's clear,
-Peter
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